Thoughts on this lower? (My first build)

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by GoGlockOrGoHome, Jun 24, 2013.

  1. GoGlockOrGoHome

    GoGlockOrGoHome New Member

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    ...after months of reading, cruising this forum and watching YouTube videos, I'm finally ready to start my first build...

    I like to support my local gun stores and am going to buy a lower from them and not online...

    I found this Spikes Tactical lower at the shop nearby and was hoping I could get some feedback...

    http://www.spikestactical.com/new/z/zombie-lower-w-standard-kit-no-stock-p-494.html


    (I will only be buying the spikes lower receiver and not the other parts shown in the picture below)



    Lower Specs

    Spike's Tactical Lower Receiver

    * CNC Machined from a 7075 T6 MIL-H-6088 Forging

    * Low Shelf for RDIAS

    * Milled Manufacturer Engravings

    * Accepts .154" Diameter Trigger & Hammer Pins

    * MIL-A-8625F Type III Class 2 Hardcoat Anodized Finish inside and out


    Thoughts?
     

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  2. Quentin

    Quentin New Member

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    Spikes makes a quality lower receiver. If you like the logo and the price is right, buy with confidence.
     

  3. GoGlockOrGoHome

    GoGlockOrGoHome New Member

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    I'm way too excited for this! Lol

    Does anyone know who makes a REALLLLY good (CA compliant) parts kit?
    I wanted to get the Daniel defense kit but they don't make a CA compliant one. =[
     
  4. SSGN_Doc

    SSGN_Doc Well-Known Member

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    Several of my friends and I have used Spikes lowers for builds. They have been good lowers.

    Check out Addax tactical for custom California AR uppers.
     
  5. Quentin

    Quentin New Member

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    What's different in a CA LPK? Just the bullet button? Can you find that separate if not in a kit?
     
  6. AgentTikki

    AgentTikki New Member

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    Where in Kommie are you?


    According to Commie law as of this day, all LPKs are Kommie compliant for use with rimfires. Rimfires do not require and magazine lock/bullet button.

    If you have a centerfire, you need to use a magazine lock (bullet button) My preference is the Radlock, as it takes all of 5 secs to unscrew it for use out of state (turn into a regular mag release with a small flathead) and turn back into a maglock in 2 seconds flat. Also, it's way easier to install than a standard mag release as this is virtually no chance of making an idiot mark.
     
  7. GoGlockOrGoHome

    GoGlockOrGoHome New Member

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    CA uppers??

    What about the upper has to be CA compliant?
    I'm lost....and still new to all of this AR stuff
     
  8. SSGN_Doc

    SSGN_Doc Well-Known Member

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    No flash-hiders. Muzzle devices must be permanently attached. I thought they couldn't have bayonet lugs but I may be wrong.

    California makes it kind of complex. You can have some "evil" features in your AR if you use a 10 round mag , and bullet button. Special stocks with no pistol grip. But if you want some of the good features of the AR you have to sacrifice other features.

    I'll admit I'm not an expert or up to date in California law. Cal guns website has tables in legal configurations of AR and AK type firearms for California.
     
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  9. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    The logo creeps me out, so obviously it must be bad.
     
  10. AgentTikki

    AgentTikki New Member

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    In the good ole PRK (Peoples Republic of Kommiefornia)


    For Centerfires:

    If you have a magazine lock or bullet button, you can use pistol grips (fore and aft) any muzzle device you want. You cannot use preban standard capacity magazines in this configuration.

    If you go featureless, you can use a standard magazine release, can use preban standard cap magazines BUT you cannot have any pistol grips, no flash hiders, and no collapseable stocks.

    Either way, you must have a barrel with a oal of 16" and a rifle with oal of 30".



    There are different rules for rimfires like .22lr.
     
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  11. GoGlockOrGoHome

    GoGlockOrGoHome New Member

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    So as long as I have a bullet button I can have a pistol grip, adjustable stock, fore grip AND a flash hider??????
     
  12. sparky17

    sparky17 New Member

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    Those bullet buttons must be magic! The stupidity of politicians is amazing! We've got one here in Colorado that thinks magazines come loaded and once you use it you throw it away. I feel sorry for you guys in Cali! At least things here aren't that bad...yet.
     
  13. AgentTikki

    AgentTikki New Member

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    In a word YES. Small price to pay imo...those featureless guns are pure abominations. BUT with the law as it is today, you can only use 10 round magazines with rifles equipped with bullet buttons.
     
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  14. AgentTikki

    AgentTikki New Member

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    Man if that's the case, I might have thrown away $10 million in magazines in my lifetime....... :( **shudder**:(




    Yes, in response to the Magical bullet button, the law calls for semi automatics to have fixed magazines. Before bullet buttons were invented, People had to do some weird stuff.

    I heard, someone, waaaay back when, made a 5 round internal magazines by hollowing out the magwell in your AR. The bottom of the magwell wouldn't be removed so it created an internal fixed magazine. To reload you had to pull the takedown pin, and open up your AR and feed in the rounds from the top.

    Then people just inserted a magazine and made it fixed (non removeable) but modifying the magazine release to not release at all. I think at this point someone figured out that if you used a tool to remove the magazine it was still considered a fixed magazine because a tool was needed. Then someone had the bright idea to make the magazine release require a tool to facilitate removing the magazine, and that is how the bullet button was born.

    Fasincating stuff........honestly most of this is conjecture but I just kinda pieced it together from some of the stuff that I saw when the 2000 ban went into place in Cali....... I kinda like the bullet button, with the proper equipment and pratice, I can do a mag change maybe 1 second slower than with a standard magazine release. Good Times.:D