[SimonTuffGuy]

Anyone have input on their ARs? I found a site that has a "bargain bin" special for them... They say lowers are a mix of CMMG, DPMS, and Doublestar. Complete setup for $570 and $15 shipping.

I've seen a bunch of people order them from another site I'm on and have been very pleased... This is my first AR and I'm really not sure what I'm going for.

Every review I've read for CMMG has been really good.

Just thinking that for under $600 shipped, I get a complete AR.

Anyone?

 

[bkt]

Can you post a link?

 

[SimonTuffGuy]

http://cmmginc.secure-mall.com/shop/index.php?cat=33&shop=1&

The people that have ordered said they came with all new parts, but had minor scratching on either the uppers or lowers... But for the price? It was a good purchase.

Just looking for suggestions from an experience group of people.

 

[bkt]

Seems a little suspect to me. They refer to everything being "as-is" with no warranty. I didn't see a return policy, either. That's probably enough that I'd go somewhere else.

Check out the Equipment Exchange on ar15.com and see if you can't build a rifle cheaply that way.

 

[SimonTuffGuy]

Seems a little suspect to me. They refer to everything being "as-is" with no warranty. I didn't see a return policy, either. That's probably enough that I'd go somewhere else.

Check out the Equipment Exchange on ar15.com and see if you can't build a rifle cheaply that way.

Correct... But it also says that all the guns have been test fired. As I said, I found this deal posted from another forum, in which at least 10 people purchased guns from them... From the posts of the people who've received and fired them, they love it.

I don't really need a warranty, as long as it works. This is just going to be a "fun range" gun...

 

[balloo93]

They are "parts guns". The lowers are one of the three listed and the upper is unknown. Well I think it's known, but I forget the maker.

I haven't heard a single complaint with them, but they are parts guns. One guy even got a bum stock on his and CMMG replaced it for free. There are no waranties for these weapons, but as mentioned, no issues reported from anyone and they have been running this deal for quite a while now.

Most of the guys on that one sight (ARFCOM) buy them with the intention of making them truck guns or beater rifles.

I'm still on the fence about picking up a M4 myself. If I do it will be in the summer.

 

[RMTactical]

I've heard mixed reviews about the bargain bin rifles. Just remember, if you are going for something you will use for serious use, don't try and get a "bargain bin" rifle. If it's just for fun and plinking, who cares.

 

[SimonTuffGuy]

Thanks guys... I broke down and just went with a new Bushy... but maybe my next one will be something that I piece together... Not 100% sure at this point what I can afford (I need a job before I buy anything else).

slow - "Your daughter, she come to my house today and she kick my dog... And now my dog needs operation!" - lol... Couldn't read your post without thinking about that.

 

[hudd357mag]

I hope people are not comparing the new CMMG guns with the bargain bin ones. I have met these people at gun shows in St. Louis. Great guns but they will actually have a trash can filled with seconds. Sometimes returns, sometimes damaged in the shop, sometimes just scratched up but work fine. Sometimes just parts of guns in the trash cans. It is not their main business. Their main business is making a whole selection of AR15 clones in a variety of configurations to fit what each person is looking for. They also carry the FN Herstal line I think? Not positive tho.

 

[556plinker]

cmmg's bargain bin

I bought a 16" midlength and an 18" rifle length out of the bargain bin for 650 apiece out of one of their retailers in columbia, mo. Theyh both had double star lowers. I questioned the clerk about the specifics and they are as follows: The lowers were stripped lowers and assembled by cmmg
The uppers were completely cmmg but I dont know about the barrel because it is not marked and I dont know from what manufacturer.
They were both chrome lined with the m4 feed ramps
They looked normal with no blemished so I asked why were they in the bargain bin....The finishes between the upper and lower were slightly different but I didn't notice it until it was pointed out to me.
I ran 200 rounds between the two with no malfunctions.

NOW, they did have one trash can gun which was appropriatlely labeled and sold for 500 but it was obviously used for extensive testing and pretty beat up...these are not the typical Bargain Bin gun. MIne were what I wuld consider in pristine condition except for the finish which I didn't even notice until it was pointed out to me. Everything fit well and functioned properly and I am beyond satisfied. This is of course with only 100 rounds apice ran thruogh each rifle. Black Rifle in columbia, MO was the particular retailer and I'm ASSUMING they probably get the cherry picked seconds because they are in close proximity to CMMG's hometown of Fayette and probably have a better relationship with them than most of the other retailers. I have no problems with this particular "bargain bin".

 

[RedWineKline]

When something seems to be this good a deal, there is always a catch... with no gaurantee or return policy in place i would save my allowance for another month and buy something else.

 

[556plinker]

Redwine

RWK:

POINT well taken......I'm satisfied for NOW. These were my first AR's, kind of went overboard but what the heck. I wanted to build one before I hopped on this forum and now I feel like I"m obligated to in order to preserve my manhood. I think I 'll do it slowly peice by piece now that the pressure is off to obtain one.

 

[makintops]

Bargain Bin

I live in Columbia where they have these rifles on display. They look great and I got the same info you posted. This is my first gun and I too need a lot of help. For a couple hundered dollars more you get a complete CMMG gun with a lifetime warranty. That's an easy decision for me since I don't have any experience I want the warranty!

 

[billdeserthills]

Anyone have input on their ARs? I found a site that has a "bargain bin" special for them... They say lowers are a mix of CMMG, DPMS, and Doublestar. Complete setup for $570 and $15 shipping.

I've seen a bunch of people order them from another site I'm on and have been very pleased... This is my first AR and I'm really not sure what I'm going for.

Every review I've read for CMMG has been really good.

Just thinking that for under $600 shipped, I get a complete AR.

Anyone?

I have only ever heard good things about CMMG, I would believe them as I would never believe they would steer you wrong, Good People. However, I have a hard time getting past the "no warranty" & "the no return"

 

[556plinker]

to billdesserthills

I got mine from their storefront in Columbia, Mo...BLACK RIFLE LLC. These have all new parts and a cmmg barrel even though they are not stamped. TO DATE: I have ran about 700 rounds through my midlength with no issues except when I had a blown primer...so the function has been excellent(NO STEEL CASED AMMO THOUGH). ACCURACY has been excellent with 1"-2" groups at 100 and 2"-4" at 200 and I'm able to keep them easily on a paper plate at 300yds. The gun shoots better than I do. I dont know about the "parts gun" aspect of this discussion but my receivers dont have any slop and I dont suspect that all of these AR manufacturers are fitting each individual part to their rifles, I could be wrong. These were built from new parts and have been headspaced and test fired which is exactly the same thing you would do when building a rifle from "parts" The only flaw is that the blueing on the lower and upper do not match but this is a slight imperfection only and I didnt recognize it until it was pointed out. IMHO this is CMMG's way of unloading excess inventory with minimal profit margins to maintain cash flow and to keep people working. I trust their ability to piece and part together a gun the same way I am doing with the same WARRANTY. People on this forum seem to not have a problem with their own builds functionality and warranty. If AR's from parts had to be gunsmithed or specially fitted you would see a whole lot less people on here "parting" their guns together. With the exception of a barrel failure or either receiver cracking, warranty fixes are negligible when it comes to the price....I wouldnt let the warranty become an issue in this decision. ALSO: I would get the chrome lined barrel for an additional $50......the cheaper models are WASP treated, for what its worth.

 

[peabody]

a buddy of mine, lives in glasgow, he bought one, they not far from him..

he LOVES it. its shoots very good. only a thousand rounds through it so far, but nary a problem.

he says he's gonna clean it some day...[] but its still chugging along..

cain't beat that !



peabody.


p.s. i have a bushy m4, its a great little rifle, its my truck gun.

 

[peabody]

p.s.


parts guns... i have two others that are ''mutts'' a dissy n' a service rifle...

they work great. eazy to cobble together, and they are very accurate.

i guess im trying to say, a parts gun is , ? to me' every bit as good as a factory new.

maybe better, i built them myself. kinda proud of myself, if only my old DI could see me now !!! lol.


peabody

 

[peabody]

ok..... lol.........''after thought post'' ha.

dids ya know ? a friend putt together a AR rifle, parts mutt.

plum crazy lower 139 dollars , [comes with m4 stock]

dsa upper , carbine ... 235 dollars,


Bolt carrier group 110 bucks.


so for a little more than 500 bucks, hes loving his rifle.


not bad ? no ?


peabody


you could do even better, if ya had a few extra parts lying around,

 

[556plinker]

hey pbody

Its my contention that all AR's are parts guns with the cmmg bargain bin being one of them...the only fitting these mfg's are probably doing is matching lowers and uppers, if that. Guys want to bash the bargain bin but its really no different than someone doing their own build or more appropriately put " THEIR OWN ASSEMBLY". Where in the HECK IS THRUSH, MO.....I'm actually in mexico, mo.

 

[peabody]

Its my contention that all AR's are parts guns with the cmmg bargain bin being one of them...the only fitting these mfg's are probably doing is matching lowers and uppers, if that. Guys want to bash the bargain bin but its really no different than someone doing their own build or more appropriately put " THEIR OWN ASSEMBLY". Where in the HECK IS THRUSH, MO.....I'm actually in mexico, mo.

i totaly agree, a parts build is, just that a parts build.

no matter who builds it.

thrush, mo. ... used to be on the map..

but its alotta the time underwater.

think truman lake.


most days the old genral store is in my backyard.