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Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by BudW, Apr 14, 2013.
debating buying a .17 since the ammo is available
What will this rifle be used for?
Under normal market conditions, .17HRM is much more expensive than .22LR.
In ordinay times, .17 HMR is $12-$16 per 50 rounds. Compare that to regular prices for .22 LR.
Now, having said that, picked up a Savage 93 Heavy Barrel- one of the most accurate rifles I have owned. It shoots much flatter than .22 LR, will make one hole groups at 50 yards if I do my part, wind moves the little .17 grain polymer tip bullets a lot.
I was thinking about picking up a .17 but am holding off until I see what the new Winchester rimfire caliber has to offer. When I was looking at the .17 my LGS pointed me towards the .22mag for 100 yard shooting.
17 tends to be a flatter shooting, higher velocity varmit rifle. 22lr is an economical(in normal times) training round and short range hunter (~75 yards). 22 Mag is a faster flatter shooting round that ranks between the other two in velocity. Higher range (100-150 yards) and improved ballistics over the 22lr make it a great little hunting/varmit round.
The best answer is get all three and use them each for what they are best....
Paper punching, shoot what your wallet can stand.....
The 17 HMR does not handle the wind very well at all. At 75 yards the wind affects the 17 HMR almost as bad as a high velocity 22 cal pellet rifle. I find the 22 WMR to be much easier to shoot. Not to mention out of the muzzle the 22 WMR produces over 300 foot pounds of energy. The energy from a 22 WMR shot from a rifle is comparable to a 9mm fired from a pistol with a 4" barrel. Winchester super x 40 gr 22 wmr ammo leaves the barrel at 2100 FPS.
I have had a couple 17's and in all honestly to me the round is a solution looking for a problem. It's not that thw round can't do anything. They make quick work of critters. But I see nothing that a 17 can do that the 22 mag can not. And the wind is not so ill tempered with a 22 mag.
That being said I am kind of wanting to set up one of my 10-22's as a 17M2
True enough if its going to be very windy I tend to up caliber also. I've got a 10/22mag in 17hmr that I like just because its something different and the explosive impact on prairie dogs is nice. Also the low recoil lets me keep the scope on the target when the shot is taken and observe the impact. But the 22/250 comes out if the wind goes much above 10mph.
Consider the razor 10/22 mag receiver, with a little work it can be made to work with 17HMR. Much better ballistics in the same sized rifle. Mine has a butler creek carbon fiber barrel and a boyds blaster stock, weighs in at 4.9 lbs with a 9 round mag.
I'm thinking about a 17M2. That's on a 22lr receiver. I really don't care much for the 17HMR personally but it's more about personal preference. The round can do pretty well in ideal conditions.
I would wait for the new winchester round before deciding.
I prefer the .22mag. It has better penetration on larger game and it's more stable in the wind. I've got a Savage M93 BTVSS and it will drive tacks at 100 yards.
I got a savage model 93 bull barrel (heavy barrel) in 17hmr. Its a nail driver. 22 Hornet is also a good round as well as 22 or 22 mag i love my 17.
I was shootin 20 oz mountain dew bottle caps off at 100 yards. Just the caps. They are all good rounds though.
I just got a savage 93r. shoots awsome. There is a new 17 round coming out in a month the 17super mag or somthing. Hornadys saying 3000fps seems prity cool. I have one of each 22lr 22wmr and 17hmr. There all fun guns but on a calm day the 17 out shoots both 22s. And it make a good squirl stew. Lol
Duddie. What all do you know about the new17 round super mag?
Here she is. Right now savage and marlin are going to chamber a bolt gun in it. Idk if any others are guna follow or already havr in production.
Thanks looks like a sweet round hope its as good as the 17hmr