Thoughts about my new 0.22's

Discussion in '.22 Rifle/Rimfire Discussion' started by SuperGau, Nov 28, 2011.

  1. SuperGau

    SuperGau New Member

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    I purchased the Ruger 10/22 Sporter 22' with stainless steel, and GSG 1911 a few weeks ago. So far things are great with the Ruger 10/22 very accurate I love it. The GSG in the other hand is very inconsistent. It would be dead on for a few shots then horribly inaccurate on some. I noticed after many tarkets that the GSG was keyholing. So i tried different ammo, Mini-Mag, Remington Golden bullet, Winchester SuperX, CCI Velocitor, and it did the same thing. Then I took it apart and everything seemed fine. Until i looked down the barrel with a light. I noticed that there was a peice of metal protruding at the end of the barrel maybe a peice of metal that was not machined all the way? I'm currently at work now, so I'll post up pictures when I get home tomorrow. I was wondering if anyone with a GSG 1911 has had any similar problems or is this just a defect. I emailed ATI with pictures so I'm waiting for them to reply. I'll keep you guys posted.
     
  2. Clem

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    I find many new barrels more than a little rough. With centerfire guns, I fire heavily jacketed bullets to smooth out the jagged edges. When things have smoothed up, I can shoot lead bullets.

    With .22s, this isn’t really possible. The closest you can come is to use some copper washed high speed stuff like CCI Minimag. Shooting softer stuff will cause the accumulation of lead on rough edges eventually causing a bullet to be thrown from the group as it breaks off the enlarging chunk of lead. Then bullets go into the group as the lead continues to accumulate until it gets too big again and breaks off.

    In extreme cases, firelapping or hand lapping may be necessary. I haven’t tried fire lapping, but I have hand lapped with JB Bore Bright a couple of new .22 that were rough. If you go that route, try using 6 or 7 fore and aft strokes with the rod, then clean the bore and shoot it to see the results. You may have to do it again. You have to be very careful here. Excess enthusiasm will ruin the bore.
     

  3. pioneer461

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    If it were me, I'd be taking it to a trusted gunsmith. They can either fix it, or advise you to sent it back to that factory and allow them to make it right.
     
  4. SuperGau

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    Clem, pioneer461 thanks for the reply's guys. I will give them a week then I'll start looking at the recommendations you guys gave me.

    Here are the pictures.

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  5. purehavoc

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    Thats odd looks like something stuck in the rifling on that first pic . does it look to be part of the barrel or lead buildup ? Shouldnt be part of the barrel or the rest of the rifling would have it if it wasnt rifled through all the way . Do you have a dental pick ? if you do I would see if it would pop loose but dont get crazy and score the barrel either
     
  6. purehavoc

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    I blew the picture up 400X and there is rifling before and after that piece of metal protruding so its not a bad machining or anything like that it just looks like a small piece of metal turned sideways in the rifling groove , use a small pick and remove it
     
  7. ACRhino

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    Is that your first pistol? MANY people flinch and don't know it with a .45 ... grip to tight ... don't grip high enough ... ride the slide ... ect.
     
  8. EW1066

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    One thing that I noticed from the pictures, is the VERY loose fit of the barrel in the collar and it is not concentric. I'm not familiar with this particular pistol, but in general loose fit and lack of concentricity are bad things when talking about gun accuracy. That being said. Neither the things I have mentioned nor flinching will cause key holeing. That is a bore or bullet issue.

    EDUB
     
  9. SuperGau

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    I tried the pick and it seems pretty well in there. I will call a local gunsmith to see if they could remove it. Thanks for the tip.
     
  10. SuperGau

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    Yes this is my first pistol but its not chambered in the .45 acp. I'm using this for plinking and later finding out which 1911 in .45 I would like to buy later.
     
  11. SuperGau

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    Cool I was thinking that was the issue too. I will be calling the them on Monday and if they can't resolve this. I will be finding a gunsmith in the area. Thanks for the info.
     
  12. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Be sure to let them know you are posting about this problem on a firearm forum.
     
  13. SuperGau

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    Thanks. Good idea.
     
  14. SuperGau

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    Ok I gave them a week and two days but no email reply. So I just got off the phone a few moments ago with the customer service person, it went fairly smooth. It's kind of odd he was questioning if I sent any emails when and what time with pictures. I told him I did over a week ago and he said "oh here it is, it must have fell through the cracks..." and apologized for the inconvience so that's cool. He said it's still under warrenty and I am shipping it off later today. He said turn around time is appox. 2-3 weeks.
     
  15. SuperGau

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    Update: I have been calling keeping in touch with ATI to make sure they have received the pistol, and was about to file a complaint due to the fact they had no idea where the pistol was. One of the representatives said it was due to Christmas that mail was slow, and I told him that I sent it out on Dec 6th priority mail. So I filed a complaint and get a call from a respresentative yesterday, and they said that the gun smiths have looked over the pistol is getting a new barrel and waiting for parts from Germany. Well at least I know something is getting done.
     
  16. SuperGau

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    I finally got my pistol back yesterday, they replaced the barrel. Can't wait to test it out again.