Thinking about adding a handgun...........

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by winds-of-change, Nov 11, 2011.

  1. Ruger LCP

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  2. Ruger LCR

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  3. Other......

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  1. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    So, let's just say I want to buy a new gun. I really like the LCP and the LCR in .357 magnum format. I like the LCR as it is hammerless and I really like revolvers. It would be nice to have something I could carry in a pocket but would pack a punch. (No, I am not going to carry it as it is illegal in my state. But let's just pretend that someday I may be able to conceal carry.)

    I would like to hear pro's and con's for each of these guns. I have a special fondness for revolvers but I am not opposed to semi-auto's.

    What else would you suggest I take a look at that you think might be better than either of these two. I would like a .357 magnum and I would like it to be concealable. Some sort of snubbie, maybe? Give me your opinions and even more importantly, your experiences.
     
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  2. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    I went with the revolver. You have experience already with the revolver in .357.
    Your ammo needs will still be only 2 calibers (.22lr and .38Special / .357 mag).
     

  3. Firearms4ever

    Firearms4ever New Member

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    I agree with Dan, but I also recommend you go to some local gun shops to look at their inventory and see what fits the bill.
     
  4. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    I have a Ruger SP101 .357. I cannot imagine firing .357 in anything lighter and smaller than the SP101. Frankly, after the first shot I doubt I could put any others close to on target due to the excessive recoil and flip.
     
  5. PanBaccha

    PanBaccha New Member

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    If you're interested in shooting 45, 410, and 000 shotshell
    from same revolver, then I would look into the Taurus
    Public Defender. See below:


    [ame=http://youtu.be/ttFslPwNEuc]Taurus Judge 45LC/410 Home Defense - YouTube[/ame]

    [ame=http://youtu.be/JYchEMw1pT4]Best Taurus Judge Video FOUR Defense Rounds Spreads - YouTube[/ame]
     
  6. griffin81

    griffin81 New Member

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    I have a LCR .357 mag. And I have to say for a close range concealable pistol it's awesome. I like how light it is. The Houge grip being places high on the back of the gun makes a huge difference. Not a gun I'd want to shoot everyday with magnums but no where near the recoil of muzzle flip you would expect out of a really light weight revolver. I would buy again. My only dislike it the factory front sight but that is easily changeable. Best of luck go handle a lot of revolvers I looked at them all and the LCR fit the bill for me. If anyone has there doubts about this revolver, I have one they can shoot as long as the want to drive to Arkansas and pick up a box of shells.

    play the victim, be the victim
     
  7. vincent

    vincent New Member

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    I have significant experience with both, and both are great. The LCR is a handful in .357, not a range gun but more up close and personal. However if you shoot .38, it's a lot easier to tame, it'll take +P ammo as well. Not great for concealment in the pocket but anywhere else is fine, fanny pack, ankle, purse. The trigger is a lot smoother and lighter out of the box than say the Smith M+P or most DAO snubbies I've had my paws on. Uber-easy to clean and Ruger has a great service dept. should you ever need it. The LCP or LCLC (lightweight compact lint collector) is also great. For me personally, my mitts are just a bit too big for it and that makes it difficult to have an even trigger pull...but that's me (6'1, 200). The pull is a long one but is easily staged once you get to know it. Perfect for pocket conceal with a good holster. The .380 is "snappy" but super fun to shoot and it's quite accurate if you take the time to get to know it. The one thing I don't like is the slide does not lock back after the last round so try to get good at counting your shots. Can't think of what mag. capacity it comes with, 10 maybe, but extensions are available to 13...(don't quote me, I only own the LCR) If you're fond of revolvers, I'd say go for it, great investment. If you prefer more capacity and super deep concealment, LCP, either way, you just can't go wrong!! The M+P is very similar except when it comees to price ( 2-300 more) but that dang trigger pull...I can't really think of a poly-revolver that compares to either but I know they're out there. Hope that helps!!!:)
     
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  8. IGETEVEN

    IGETEVEN New Member

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    Either the Ruger SP101 or the LCR. :cool:

    Everyone else already gave the same pro/cons reasons I would have, and it would just be repetitiveness to type my own. YMMV
     
  9. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    I would carry in either a pocket or a fanny pack. I was always told to carry in a purse is to arm a purse snatcher and that makes sense to me. Not to mention I don't really carry a purse and even if I did, there's always 'crap' at the bottom of a purse. I want it on my person.



    What I like about the LCR over the SP101 is the LCR has an internal hammer. You could pull it out of a pocket or fanny pack and it won't get hung up.

    Besides, I think that LCR is one SWEET looking gun.

    But I wouldn't mind an LCP, either.
     
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  10. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger New Member

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    I think you should step out from your comfort zone (revolvers) and look in to a semi-auto. Variety is the spice of life. My wife has an LCP and, while cuter than heck, it's pretty much useless for anything beyond personal protection.

    And why all this talk about carrying if you're not going to be able to carry?

    And I also submit that you would HATE a small .357...unless you're going to just shoot .38 Special through it. But you won't enjoy shooting .357 through a small, light revolver, I promise you.
     
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  11. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    I am guessing that sometime in the future, Illinois residents will be able to carry. Someday Illinois is going to realize that we are not right and the other 49 states wrong about conceal carry. I have a large revolver (GP100) and a Mark II that is scoped and truly only a target gun. I guess I could shoot small game with it but I have no desire to shoot anything other than inanimate targets.

    I would like a small gun that is easy to carry on my person in my home or to keep in a little nook or cranny somewhere. The GP100 (6" barrel) is hard to conceal on a shelf behind some books or to hide in your hand when you answer the door. She's a big 'un.
     
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  12. vincent

    vincent New Member

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    I'm in love with my GP100!!! Forgot to add...Ruger has an additional grip style, a bull grip...(again, don't quote me) I think it's called. It's supposed to be easier to draw from a pocket than the hogue but I haven't had my meathooks on it yet, there is a good review on youtube, I'll try to dig it up for ya...
     
  13. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    If you're implying you can carry your GP100 in your pocket, that I'd like to see!! ;)

    I worry about the hammer making a gun difficult to pull out of a pocket rather than the grips. That's what I like about the LCR.
     
  14. vincent

    vincent New Member

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    Haaa!! I was talking about the LCR but now you've got me thinkin':D GP100 deep conceal...that would be something!!
     
  15. Jpyle

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    Woc,

    I have to agree with Lon here, why the rush to get a gun that you cannot use for its only real purpose and one that you will not enjoy at the range? Just my opionion but if you have an itch that needs scratching why not use the opportunity to venture out of your comfort zone and test drive a semi-auto. There are many small frame choices in 9mm that would be easily concealed when the time comes yet would currently offer you some fun at the range.
     
  16. purehavoc

    purehavoc New Member

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    Ever taken a look at the LC9 ? just a tad bigger than the .380 easy enough to conceal , I wouldnt call it a pocket gun but I suppose you could ,
     
  17. sweeper22

    sweeper22 New Member

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    My suggestion was also going to be an SP101. It's the perfect compact compliment to anyone who already bases much of their experience off of the GP100 platform.

    While I do prefer auto loaders, I'd take 357m/38sp over 380acp eight days a week. Without wasting time rambling about power, it's just a whole lot more versatile round with countless practical applications. Having a 2.25" SP101 myself, I have to echo Scott's sentiments about not wanting to shoot 357JHPs out of any frame lighter than that.

    And BTW- The SP101 is not only offered in multiple barrel lengths, but it's available with an internal hammer:

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  18. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    Ruger has already solved that for you.

    Ruger® SP101® Double-Action Revolver Model 5720
     
  19. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    Seconded. Less barrel necessitates more and squishier grip, preferably with tamer ammo.
     
  20. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I have an SP101 in 357. The factory grips are not great. I replaced mine with the Crimson Trace LG111 laser grips. I dont have much trouble controlling it with 125 grn mags. 158 grn mags are more of a handful but still controllable. I also had the trigger worked over. It is a DAO and on my belt right now.