Think You Can Run a Better Country?

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by Dillinger, Jul 1, 2008.

  1. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    So, you think running the country is easy do you? Think you have all the answers and could keep your population happy, healthy AND give them a low enough tax base to make a good living, perhaps prosper and retire?

    Well, it's time to put your money ( actually it's 100% free ) where your mouth is....

    www.nationstates.net

    At this website you can sign up to run your own little country. You will be put in charge of a growing population, and each day you will be asked, by your citizens and members of your government, to vote on issues that have real world impacts the following day on your citizens and their rights. Each day you get 1, or two if you feel like a work-a-holic, issues and with your vote, the government works to implement them in the next 24 hours, giving you feed back on your taxes, on your political freedoms, on your personal friends and your economy ( don't worry, no math skills are required ). Each day you will be ranked in accordance with other countries in your region to see how you, as a ruler, stack up against other people from around the globe.

    This is actually a pretty fun game and I thought a few of you might like to turn your kids on to it for some summer "fun" with an educational undertone. I have about 10 people in our little corner of the "world" and we have been playing for about 3 months. It's quite addicting as you make one change on one day, and before you know it, something you thought was good for the people, turns around and bites you in the ass.... LOL

    Here is a brief synopsis of some recent votes that I had to make...

    • 8 hours ago: Following new legislation in your country, elections have become procedural nightmares due to voters persistently rejecting candidates.
    • 21 hours ago: Following new legislation in your country, the nation is experiencing a severe shortage of sporting events.
    • 1 day ago: Your country was reclassified from "Capitalist Paradise" to "Inoffensive Centrist Democracy".
    • 1 day ago: Following new legislation in your country, the polar bear is a protected species.
    • 1 day ago: Following new legislation in your country, pharmacies close down as medicinal drugs are sold freely by the government.
    • 2 days ago: Following new legislation in your country, citizens are permitted to carry concealed firearms.

    And it continues to spiral out of control as the days go on. My citizens have had tons of freedoms, only to have riots, we have had no freedoms, only to have riots, we have been a financial juggernaut and we have had people starving on the streets during a "recession". It's quite fun and educational, so I thought I would share it with the rest of you...

    JD
     
  2. fapprez

    fapprez New Member

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    Sounds fun! I'll let you know how bad I fail.
     

  3. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

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    Yes I could. If you stop paying all these worthless SOB (Congress, The House, and many other public offices) and make them do it for FREE then they might get some thing done. But I doubt it.
     
  4. anm2_man

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    Well I always thought that since when I was a kid, I had to sign up to the Selective Service. I had a high probability of being drafted and serving in Vietnam. So why not a Selective Service to serve your country again, but this time you have to be 65. We are still going to elect the president, but congress and the senate will become drafted volunteers. One would be selected from a lottery, you would have to pass several tests (No different than being drafted by the armed forces). Term limits are enforced (you do 2 years when your young in the army - why not here also). If you get called up and have passed all of the tests, you go to Washington. You get paid NOTHING ! But housing staff support and travel between your home state and DC are paid for (Oh it will be coach class - just like are armed forces).

    This could fix the problems we have in Washington today.
     
  5. Chester

    Chester New Member

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    Can you imagine us old farts going through basic? We'd be telling the drill instructors to GO TO HELL
     
  6. fapprez

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    Update

    Well, in just 9 days I have managed to take my country from a New York Times Democracy to a Moralistic Democracy to a Inoffensive Centrist Democracy back to Moralistic and back again to Inoffensive and I currently reside as a Democratic So******t government.
     
  7. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    Nice huh? How many times have you voted on one issue, thinking it would fall one way, only to find out you did something COMPLETELY the opposite? LOL

    What's your tax rate after 9 days? And how issues a day are you voting?

    JD
     
  8. Doug1627

    Doug1627 New Member

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    So I made a country. Can I only vote on issues once per day?
     
    Last edited: Jul 10, 2008
  9. matt g

    matt g New Member Supporter

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    OOOhhh! I want in on this. Can you declare martial law and go all Tienanmen Square on your citizens?
     
  10. matt g

    matt g New Member Supporter

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    This is going to be fun.
     
  11. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    In the settings you can ask for one issue per weekday, two issues per weekday, one issue everyday or two issues everyday. The more issues you vote on, the faster your country grows in size, but it doubles your problems.

    Here is what my country is currently up too....

    The Armed Republic of Arctic Glubania is a huge, socially progressive nation, notable for its compulsory military service. Its hard-nosed, hard-working population of 439 million have some civil rights, but not too many, enjoy the freedom to spend their money however they like, to a point, and take part in free and open elections, although not too often.

    It is difficult to tell where the omnipresent government stops and the rest of society begins, but it juggles the competing demands of Law & Order, Defence, and Education. Citizens pay a flat income tax of 31%. A robust private sector is dominated by the Arms Manufacturing industry.

    Many parents are becoming frustrated with their children's choices in spouses, the government is making attempts at curtailing the flood of spam emails with little progress, citizens are regularly found digging for treasure in their gardens, and shops were recently ransacked as cigarettes returned to the shelves. Crime -- especially youth-related -- is well under control, thanks to the all-pervasive police force. Arctic Glubania's national animal is the polar bear, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the Glubanian Krugerand.

    I can't win no matter what I do.... LOL

    JD
     
  12. matt g

    matt g New Member Supporter

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    Awesome, I'm bumping to two per day.
     
  13. Doug1627

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    The Kingdom of Doug1627 is a tiny, socially progressive nation, renowned for its absence of drug laws. Its hard-nosed, hard-working, intelligent population of 6 million have some civil rights, but not too many, enjoy the freedom to spend their money however they like, to a point, and take part in free and open elections, although not too often.

    The medium-sized government is mainly concerned with Law & Order, although Education and Healthcare are secondary priorities. The average income tax rate is 15%. A substantial private sector is led by the Basket Weaving, Arms Manufacturing, and Gambling industries.

    Voting is voluntary. Crime is a problem. Doug1627's national animal is the Golden Eagle and its currency is the Dollar.

    Doug1627 is ranked 1473rd in the region and 32,002nd in the world for Largest Pizza Delivery Sector.



    Just voted to make drugs illegal again, I found the people cannnot handle that freedom without hurting the economy.
     
  14. fapprez

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    The People's Republic of The America Colonies is a large, devout nation, notable for its compulsory military service. Its hard-nosed population of 20 million are fiercely patriotic and enjoy great social equality; they tend to view other, more capitalist countries as somewhat immoral and corrupt.

    The large government devotes most of its attentions to Law & Order, with areas such as Social Equality and Commerce receiving almost no funds by comparison. The average income tax rate is 28%, but much higher for the wealthy. A large private sector is led by the Soda Sales, Cheese Exports, and Trout Farming industries.

    All tariffs have been abolished, genetic researchers have been expelled, high-income earners pay a 100% tax rate, and organ donation rates are among the lowest in the region. Crime is relatively low, thanks to the all-pervasive police force. The America Colonies's national animal is the American Bison and its currency is the Liberty.

    The America Colonies is ranked 1491st in the region and 36,885th in the world for Largest Pizza Delivery Sector.
     
  15. Dillinger

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    LOL - You are going to find that every well intentioned act is going to hurt something along the way. It's kind of a perverse pleasure actually. I got about 8 people at work hooked on it and we formed our own region. Then we petitioned the UA, their version of the UN, for membership and were accepted. We put it to a vote, since becoming a member causes you to be affected by the votes of the UA that pass, regardless of how you feel about it, our region voted to decline the invitation.... LOL

    It's addicting. I can't go through the day without checking on my little nation at least twice to see how I messed up today...

    JD
     
  16. Doug1627

    Doug1627 New Member

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    Very Addicting, I have a seperate browser open for it.


    Great find Dillinger! Thanks for sharing.
     
  17. matt g

    matt g New Member Supporter

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    I'm not sure how letting children gamble lowered my political freedom rating.
     
  18. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    Yeah - Kind of curious isn't it? No matter what decision you make, it's going to make an impact somewhere in your country.

    Here's a hint - If you dimiss a vote, because you don't agree with it, you lose population growth for that day. It's better to vote on each issue and get the growth, then you have more regional influence and the changes to your system aren't as strongly felt.

    JD
     
  19. matt g

    matt g New Member Supporter

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    I really like tonight's issue:

    The Issue

    A group of emergency room doctors has petitioned the government to introduce mandatory organ donations.
    The Debate

    1. "It's not as crazy as it sounds," says Dr. Roxanne McAlpin. "Every day, people die because we don't have the organs to save them. Well, that and widespread under-funding of the health system. But the point is, if the government allowed us to take organs from dead people, we could save hundreds of lives a year. And come on, it's not like dead people need them."


    2. "You keep your damn hands off my organs!" says alarmed hospital patient Clint Rubin. "They are my organs, and I'll do with them what I like. The government has no right to my body."

    I've always though that death row inmates should be harvested for organs. I'm going with #1, even though I know it'll lower my political freedoms and civil rights.
     
  20. Doug1627

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    Just voted on that one. Still awaiting results.

    The Community of Doug1627 is a small, pleasant nation, notable for its burgeoning Golden Eagle population. Its hard-nosed, hard-working, intelligent population of 9 million have some civil rights, but not too many, enjoy the freedom to spend their money however they like, to a point, and take part in free and open elections, although not too often.

    The medium-sized government is mainly concerned with Law & Order, although Education and Religion & Spirituality are on the agenda. The average income tax rate is 15%. A substantial private sector is led by the Basket Weaving, Arms Manufacturing, and Gambling industries.

    Voting is voluntary, marijuana is legal in the privacy of your own home, and citizens select which government department gets their income tax Dollars each year. Crime is a problem. Doug1627's national animal is the Golden Eagle and its currency is the Dollar.

    Doug1627 is ranked 1st in the region and 13,815th in the world for Happiest Citizens.