Think i might cry....

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by kaido, Mar 12, 2012.

  1. kaido

    kaido New Member

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    Okay okay, maybe not hit THAT hard by it, but what I was told does suck some serious lemons.

    I got in from school all of 20minuites ago and my Mongols me I had a phone call from a CPT.fake-name from the recruiting center by me. Needless to say, after a few weeks of me always calling them, I was pretty stoked. Then he told me the reason he was calling.

    My vision wasn't up to par with the choices I was going for (Infantry, Combat Engineer, and Field Artillery). That put a small kink in my plans for life. It did get a little better though.

    He told me that I still have a couple of choices left that I can go for, even with my eye sight. So now I'm down to Bosun in the navy(gotta find out what that is), cook, Intelligence operator, Mechanic(any thing under that), Material Technician (have to find out what this one is too), Medical Assistance, and finally a Signal Operator.

    Needless to say, glasses kinda suck now. Haha

    EDIT for those who didn't happen to catch it, I was nor am I close to crying. The tittle was simply just a way of saying it was lame finding out I couldn't go for what I was hoping.
     

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  2. bkt

    bkt New Member

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    Aw, crud, that sucks. Sorry to hear that.

    For what it's worth, a very good buddy of mine has outstanding eyesight and can't put five shots on an 8x10 sheet of paper at 50 feet with a 22lr rifle. He was in artillery in the Army. I'm not sure what their standards actually are....

    Let us know where you end up. No matter where (or whether!) you do, we're proud of you and you have our gratitude.
     

  3. kaido

    kaido New Member

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    Well.....your friend seems a little odd then. Haha
    But I'm in Canada so our standards are probably a little different the. What yours are.


    From what I've read so far, I'm leaning more towards material technician as of now. But that's probably going to chance with in the seven days I've been given to make up my mind. If I don't call them in that time, my file gets closed. A little bit of a downer.
     
  4. bkt

    bkt New Member

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    Oh hell, you have no idea how odd. Great guy, very smart, just can't hit a bull elephant in the arse with a 2x4....

    Anyway, good luck and keep us informed.
     
  5. kaido

    kaido New Member

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    Haha the odd ones usualy are pretty good friends, regardless of their shooting skills.

    But I'll be sure to keep you guys informed.
     
  6. kaido

    kaido New Member

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    Just another blip.

    Got I contact with the unit I'd be paired with today, I gave him the option I was going for, Material Tech, and was told that's only available for full-time members.

    Turns out the first person I talked to yesterday didn't realize what part of the forces I was applying for and just have me a general list of what I'm able to go for. So instead of choosing that trait, I'm going with Vehicle Tech since its pretty close to it and I'd still be learning skills I could use after leaving the forces.

    Since I know someone is probably wondering why I'm not going in as a full time member, I was still in grade eleven when I applied to join up. The reason I went with reservist is because I thought I would of been done my basic training (boot camp) while still on school. That was a fair while ago. I also asked if it would be possible to be switched out into reg force since I'm only 3months (not including march) away from being done school, but was given different answers by each person.

    Some have said that I'd have to go back and do just the testing alone for the reg force other have said I'd have to refill out the application as well as do the testing. I've also been told that it would just be easier to get all my training done since its the same for both regular forces and reserve forces and then switch over after that's all said and done. Out of those three, I'm going with the last one since it honestly does seem like it would be easier to do.
     
  7. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    Well, good luck with figuring out that career path. I am a firm believer that sometimes things don't work out like you hope/plan for a reason (Karma, divine intervention, luck, whatever).
     
  8. Tackleberry1

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    A bit of advice from a old grunt. Given all the stink holes we are currently engaged in and the often erratic action of our Chief Appologizer, I would tell any youg person considering service to GO ACTIVE DUTY.

    Seems to me the Reservists and National Guard units are doing most of the multiple deployments through the sand box while the active duty regiments are back home keeping there training up for the "next" major action.

    Long story short, if you need to go Johny Jihad hunting it's better to do it with a complete unit that rotates together, "unit cohesion", rather that getting assigned to a unit already "in rotation" where you land "in country" fresh out of boot, as the cherry FNG.

    Either way your choice to serve is respected.

    Good Luck

    Tack
     
  9. Retaks

    Retaks New Member

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    I was in the USMC as Intel and had a great time doing it. We didnt have the vision rules to determine what mos you can do though. I just hapened to score really good and picked it. I spent 90% of my time with and infantry unit to collect and intel during patrols. IM sorry i cant say i know all these cool secrets and was in the pentagon and all. All i did was go on patrols and if i noticed anything that looked kinda important i collected it and took it back.
     
  10. kaido

    kaido New Member

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    Oh I know. Karma has been a bit of a butt-hole the past little bit. I keep having plans go south, but some of the smaller ones I've made have worked out have gone pretty good the past monthish so I'm hoping that this starts to get a move on.

    I did originally plan on going in as reg force (active duty) ever since I was around 13 or so. But after doing some thinking while I was sixteen I figured I still wanted to have my schooling done, but join as soon as I could. That's the reason I enlisted as a reservist. I do plan on switching over to active duty after my training is done.

    The other thing, as far as actualy going On deployments, I'm not sure if I can. I was told that do to my eye sight I couldn't pick a combat roll, that's why I decided to switch out for Vehicle Tech. With any luck though, I might be sent over and go on the odd patrol or be sent "out of the wire" to meet up with a convoy that's having mechanical troubles. That would probably be it though.

    That's why I was thinking about going with intel for a little bit. I thought it would be something that's fairly fun and exciting to do. I also like the challange of having to remember things. Never expected to learn all the top secret things that go on surfing wars at all. Was only expecting to know when the next offensive/patrol was going to be made. Haha
     
  11. Retaks

    Retaks New Member

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    I dont know what ur guys do up there but here some guys do what i did and some guys did know all the top secrets. I didnt wanna know all of that and would rather be out doing things then sitting in an office. I did have alot of clearances i never used but had just due to my mos requirements.
     
  12. kaido

    kaido New Member

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    That's why I was going for a combat roll at first. I dot like desk jobs very much at all. But I'd o been the same as you, I'd avoid anything top secret.
     
  13. notdku

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    I'm sorry to hear it, but am proud you are still deciding to serve our Nation.
     
  14. kaido

    kaido New Member

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    Well guys, had a recruiter come to the school, was the same person as last time too. Haha

    I was talking to him and he said that after enrolling and being accepted as a reservist it might take any where from a couple months to a year to have everything switched over for me to become an active duty member. Totally not what I was hoping to hear as far as time goes. Haha

    He also said that if I stayed in, finished my basic as well as my trades training, then i could drop out of reserves and then re-enlist for active duty and there's a pretty good chance I wouldn't have to go through the training again. But he also said that's if I'm going for the same position, even the. It would very case by case.
     
  15. seal6

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    Go to the local bookstore and buy something like ASVAB for dummies or something related and study it like hell. If you test well enough then you may either be able to request a waiver for eyesight or have the government pay for eye correction surgery. That's what I did and I'm an ex-seal. They like the smart ones there bud haha good luck.
     
  16. Mason609

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    Something it seems that he didn't mention was that your reserve unit has to release you which is their choice, and one that is usually made in their favor. They put time and money into you, so they'll want to have something to show for that.

    Also, after reading your first post, it got me thinking... did you go to MEPS for a physical? If so, they would have told you there if your eyesight wasn't up to par for the job you want.

    Now, for something that I do have some experience with...

    I'm a former 13B (field artillery). Looking at the pic of the glasses you shared... I had a few guys on my crew with much THICKER lenses. And a few more in my battery.

    Now, I'm not trying to talk crap about a recruiter, BUT, they don't always have YOUR best interest at heart. They get perks for recruiting for specific jobs, and will do what they can to get a potential recruit to agree to whatever they wanted.

    Also, do what Seal6 suggested. Getting a high score on the ASVAB opens more jobs. Also makes waivers a bit easier to come by.
     
  17. kaido

    kaido New Member

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    I'll be honest guys, I'm not to sure of a lot of the acronyms just yet since im still fairly new to the more specific ones relating to jobs and other such thing.
    I do know them for the most part though.

    I'm also not to sure if the requested book would help me out a whole lot since its probably made for the American forces.

    I also wasn't aware that recruiters got perks for getting people into certain positions at all. I might talk to a different one when I get the chance to and see what they have to say about eye sight. I'm also pretty sure that our (Canada's) government doesn't pay for corrective eye surgery. I do know that if you have a health plan they'll cover I think half of it though.
     
  18. Mason609

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    Every recruiter, whether it's military, sports or any other job will always get perks for filling needed areas, regardless of the recruitee's desires.

    I wouldn't talk to another recruiter. I'd contact either someone at the Military Entrance Processing Command (MEPS), or whatever Canada's version is. Either that, or find someone already serving, and try to get the info about a Chief Medical Officer. Recruiters know only what they need to. They don't know ALL the rules and restrictions. Though, they can get access to that info, I don't trust them.

    The ASVAB stands for Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery. I'm not sure what Canada has as far as an entry test, but, I can say with 99% certainty - IF they have a similar test, there will be a book to help you study for it.

    A not so quick goolge search.... Canada has the CFAT or Canadian Forces Aptitude Test. I have found several pratice test, but so far nothing as far as a study guide goes. You may want to check out a few (major) book stores to see if you can find something.

    You can always contact the National Defense Headquarters in Ottowa for information.
     
  19. kaido

    kaido New Member

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    You know, I might just do that. I work with someone who's active duty and when me and him where talking about it he gave an odd look and straight out said "I think that guys just pulling your chain." I would really be to surprised either. A few of the active members I know wear glasses, I'm just not to sure what their vision is like. I'll get a hold of someone in medical next time I get a chance to and see what they say.

    As for the ASVAB/CFAT, I already took mine. It was done on June 10, 2011. Same day as my physical and medical. Things have just been insanely slow. I was also told that I scored high enough to go for the jobs that I had selected, that's the reason I was a little surprised when I was told that I wasn't able to go for them.
     
  20. Reaper61

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    I am a Howitzer Section Chief in the FA, in Afghanistan...the vision thing is recruiter BS!! I have a Soldier in my Section who has glasses that are literally alomst 1/2 inch thick!!! Granted I'm in the US Army, so our standards might be different, but odds are he's just tryin to fill quotas. BTW I got to train with your FA school house in Gaugetown. Good freakin training (and by training I mean drinking :D)!!