Things that keep my hope alive America will Rise up again!

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by WebleyFosbery38, May 2, 2014.

  1. WebleyFosbery38

    WebleyFosbery38 New Member

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    OK, I'm often posting about things that piss me off and make me wonder if we have a future as a nation. Today Im going to talk about a couple things that make me happy and more positive that we will again be the best at being the free nation we are!

    I hit 20 years working in a Liberal Arts University in upstate NY so Im plastered by BS liberalism 7.5 hours a day, 5 days a week. If you absorb that all day long you might think that is the way of the world, get used to it! Ive seen a couple/ few resident Liberals convert their way of thinking in the last few years.

    Two are close friends, one early 30's, the other late 50's, both have substantially modified their beliefs and are denouncing many of their prior liberated ways and embracing the concept of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness with the addition of the 2nd amendment to their devotions.

    Jimmy (Old guy like me) was a lifetime Democrat from NYC that has lived upstate for the last 35 years. Before 9/11, he had no personal use for firearms but realized if the Gov couldnt/ wouldnt live up to its responsibility to keep us safe after disarming us then it was up to him to do it himself. He went from zero to 50 guns in less than 10 years and now knows more about them than I do. He's a different man today than when I showed him how to field strip his new AR a few years ago and his wife is now a lethal shooter as well!

    Mikey is a young man that was under the impression that he and his family were safe and had no need for any posture other than those described by The Dave Mathews Band. His eyes have become very open in the last couple years. He just had his first Baby and while on Family leave went to an outdoor show, bought a raffle ticket for a shotgun and won it! He took his safety course, picked up the gun and early this week I took him out in the back yard and we blasted it about 20 times. First time he ever shot a weapon and Ive never seen a bigger smile than him plastering the targets I set up. He just bought an old Ithaca double barrel last week, from zero to 2 in 3 weeks is pretty good.

    Honestly, I really dont know any Conservatives that have changed course on their political views but I do see Liberals changing as they realize more government has turned out to be less rights and innocent dead folks have come of it!

    A few million new Firearm owners this year alone does tell a story that Hope is Alive and well and living in the USA! Tell your Liberal Convert Story here and let folks see that Barry Oh and Shotgun Joe have done more to hurt their causes than help!
     
  2. SSGN_Doc

    SSGN_Doc Well-Known Member

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    Now if they reform socially and and economically as well, there can be true hope. Armed communists don't comfort me.:D
     

  3. TekGreg

    TekGreg Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I think it's the unspoken hope that a such a radical change in this area of their life will cause them to re-evaluate and change in others. Most changes such as this do not happen in a vacuum.

    I believe we may be able to come back to some form of greatness, but it won't come without some sort of sacrifice. The biggest question is WHEN will the change come, in time to not suffer the greatest indignities, or are we going to have to hit bottom in a complete collapse before those driving us to ruin change their convictions?

    I heard on the radio that, when Obama took office, America's economy was 50% larger than China. As of last month, China has almost caught up, and should surpass us this year. If they do, the World could decide to use China's currency as the Universal Currency, taking the honor away from the U.S. If that happens, we can no longer print money with impunity and economists think we could become a Third World economy overnight. Things like this seem not to bother our current administration as they spend like drunken monkeys and ignore foreign policy. What is the answer and where will it end?
     
  4. WebleyFosbery38

    WebleyFosbery38 New Member

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    Ive seen what your saying it in both my subjects. They are hard working nation and family loving guys. The promises they got early in life finally were tested and neither is stupid enough to continue to follow a path that isnt safe.

    I think most folks generally start out an awful lot more liberal than they end up anyways (Myself included). I was born a rural rat, lots of hunting fishing, trapping, booze and drugs.:eek: I chopped off 2' of hair in 1980 2 days before I entered the US Army as a College Dropout that couldnt think about passing a Piss test back then. 35 years later, I dont even recognize that guy. There were allot of bumps and broken bones over those years.

    Im mostly proud to be an American first and generally leave the other markers off (Lib or Conservative). Hell, I still think Im the most Liberal Conservative you will ever meet but in the end, God and The Constitution will be my ultimate guides!
     
  5. Eagle1803

    Eagle1803 New Member

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    Web, I am glad you feel that way and I hope you are right. I give you credit for those 7 1/2hrs a day as I am sure I could not do it. my thoughts about liberals I will not repeat here, a big amount of them are the cause of the crap that goes on in this country.

    Tekgreg has a very stong and I think correct assessment of what china is doing and with the fall of our currency that is so much a great possibility and a Damn shame for this country.


    America better wake the Hell up!
     
  6. willshoum

    willshoum New Member

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    ?????????????????

    Rip Van Winkle................Can you read between the lines...............WAKE UP AMERICA.......................:mad::mad::mad:
     
  7. 7point62

    7point62 Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I wish I could be as optimistic. I taught my Leftist Ex-hippie sister-in-law to shoot a .22 and she loved it, couldn't stop talking about what fun it was. But she's still a commie.

    The demographics of the country have changed, we've been infected with this Euro-socialist world-without-borders crap...I think it'd take a major shockwave to re-ignite common sense.

    You and I regard the Constitution for what it is, a brilliant and sacred document. The hard-core liberals regard it as an old piece paper that needs to be chucked out and re-written.
     
  8. mseric

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    This does not bother the current administration, the Media and over half the country.

    Obama was selected to do exactly what he is doing, destroy the US Economy. This is not a result or an unintended consequence of his politics, it is THE agenda. He is intentionally destroying the Economy at the same time gutting the US Military taking away out ability to defend ourselves as a Nation when everything collapses.

    The only real obstacle the Socialists have is the Second Amendment. Not that it will stop them from destroying the economy and the Country, but it will slow them down when they try and destroy and control the people.
     
  9. willshoum

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    In the end..............

    We here in the U S A, live in a world where our military is overun with idiots. Gadgits they think will win the wars for them. 10+ years in Afsewstan and were're leaving defeated by a bunch of goat herders..........We pay thru the nose for this stuff and then they say we can't use it in a time of war that has no soldier in uniform or boundries.............Not if but when, this gadget gets used on American soil.... The Drone.................:eek:;)
     
  10. willshoum

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    The high ground.............

    Seek and you shall find.................:eek:;)
     
  11. alsaqr

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    Yep, Obama ain't my favorite president. Neither was the last one, the one before that or the one before him; ad nauseum, ad nauseum. Today real US wages are just below the 1989 level. This country has lost 25 years of wage growth. i know Okies who are working two and three jobs to make ends meet.

    Obama inherited an economy that was in the crapper. The DJIA was at about 7,000 points when Obama came into office. Today the DJIA is over 16,000. The US no longer has a robust industrial base; you can't have a world class economy without a robust industrial base.

    Yep, folks pi$$ and moan about socialists and communists while they buy stuff from communist China where wages are less than $1 per hour. We are paying for our own destruction at the hands of the Chinese communists.
     
  12. Eagle1803

    Eagle1803 New Member

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    trying to figure out what you mean when you said defeated.....just wondering :confused:
     
  13. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I'm wondering too. Islamic "heaven" is running out of virgins due to those "gadgets."
     
  14. Mercator

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    Once they become armed Citizens, they are no longer commies. Can't be. That's the healing power of the Second Amendment. :)
     
  15. Tackleberry1

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    Mother In Law

    Government employee her entire life and a Democrat without a cause when I met her 23 years ago...

    She's been a consistent Republican voter for over 20 years now but occasionally gets her wires crossed and comes to me for "clarification."

    Last one was on Bundy's cattle... She was pissed that some old redneck Mormon though he could freeload out of his grazing fees.

    Once I examined that he paid his fees until the BLM cut his head allotment from 1000 cows to 150 cows, and that every other rancher in Clark County who had layed down for the BLM went out of business... She got it and said... "I guess he's lucky he has lots of armed friends."

    Warm's my heart to hear things like that!

    Tack
     
  16. willshoum

    willshoum New Member

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    The true meaning................

    We have not accomplished a damn thing in Afsewerstan other than to drain our pockets and have thousands of people killed. Once The farmer quits hoeing in the garden, the weeds return...............:eek:;)
     
  17. WebleyFosbery38

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    Nobody calls it like it is anymore, Pro Choice sounds better than "killing a Baby", "Income redistribution" is less harsh than "Mutually Assured Mediocrity". Its even easier to pit citizen against citizen and redefine a ceremony that has thousands of years worth of history than admit the Government has no business authorizing or denying personal relationships of consenting adults, thats lord of the Manor BS, there is no basis in our Constitution for any regulating of Marriage whatsoever!!!! They use the same laws designed to protect the freedom to worship as we will into daggers that deny any public form of recognizing our maker "to avoid unpleasant conversations in School" at the same time denying the fact that our laws are of Judea-Christain origin, not culled from the Ding Dynasty or Sharia anything!

    Somehow, they even have convinced a certain part of the population that Unfettered has limitations that arent obvious to the common citizen so they must illustrate them in law For Our Own Good. The act like the word isnt even in there or say that only applies to an organized army. Do they really think were that stupid, what kind of law would be created by a group of founders that had just suffered a revolution would limit that which brought forth their freedom? Ludicrous and complete and utter nonsense.

    Read the words dammit, dont read into them!!!!!!