They still wont let Dick Heller register his gun!

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by sculker, Jul 18, 2008.

  1. sculker

    sculker New Member

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    DC Rejects Handgun Application


    WASHINGTON (WUSA) -- District residents can start registering their guns today. But at least one very high profile application was already rejected.

    Dick Heller is the man who brought the lawsuit against the District's 32-year-old ban on handguns. He was among the first in line Thursday morning to apply for a handgun permit.

    But when he tried to register his semi-automatic weapon, he says he was rejected. He says his gun has seven bullet clip. Heller says the City Council legislation allows weapons with fewer than eleven bullets in the clip. A spokesman for the DC Police says the gun was a bottom-loading weapon, and according to their interpretation, all bottom-loading guns are outlawed because they are grouped with machine guns.

    Besides obtaining paperwork to buy new handguns, residents also can register firearms they've had illegally under a 180-day amnesty period.

    Though residents will be allowed to begin applying for handgun permits, city officials have said the entire process could take weeks or months.

    CLICK HERE to get more information from the Metropolitan Police Department's webiste.


    http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/stor...4036&catid=158
     
  2. RL357Mag

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    Someone on another thread about voting made the statement that because of the 'new" legislation prohibiting gun confiscation as a result of the Katrina debacle, that gun confiscation could no longer happen! How naive!
     

  3. Dillinger

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    Uh guys, *scratching head* I have been around guns my whole life, and have handled a BUNCH of the stuff out there, but I can't think of a time I came across a semi automatic pistol that was either a SIDE or a TOP loader....

    "A spokesman for the DC Police says the gun was a bottom-loading weapon, and according to their interpretation, all bottom-loading guns are outlawed because they are grouped with machine guns"

    Every modern firearms manufacturer on the planet currently produces a bottom load magazine pistol with a 10 round, or less, clip capacity. So, according to the brain trust in Washington DC, they are ALL illegal?

    Obviously Heller knew he was going to be getting some flack, no matter what he did, after basically tearing down the system, but this is just plain chickensh!t. If the cops were smart about it they would have allowed him to register and then waited for him to screw up and make the news when they caught him doing it, now they just look petty and pathetic - which they pretty much are....

    What a crock. I hope he sues the hell out of them again! Let me know where to chip in for the Legal Lawsuit Fund sculker, I'm on board...

    JD
     
  4. bkt

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    I smell another law suit. This won't stand.


    RL357Mag, they can't confiscate what you don't hand over (or which they don't find). And D.C. was not a jurisdiction that passed any such law to deny law enforcement the authority to confiscate firearms from law-abiding citizens. Hell, D.C. is still refusing to acknowledge people have a right to own and carry firearms.

    JD, you're using logic based on sound facts. That's foreign territory for the clowns in D.C.
     
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  5. Dillinger

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    I agree bkt - but that said, show me a semi automatic that is of common production that isn't bottom load? Hell, show me one from the last 50 years for that matter....

    My only point was - their opinion is that you can carry a revolver, if I am understanding their interpretation, or you can carry a breach loading pistol.

    So, given that criteria - I say Heller and bunch of his friends all buy the biggest damn hand cannons on the planet and wander in to get them licensed.

    .454 Casulls, .500's, and T/C's in .45-70/.50-70 - that would get the cops attention. Your vest might stop the 9mm you weren't going to let me carry, but how do you feel about letting me hit you in the chest with a round designed to bring down Elephants??

    JD
     
  6. BigO01

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    JD when the Grendals were being made they had a top loading 10 round 380 .

    Friend had one as his off duty gun in warm weather .

    DAO plastic thing was kinda cool , all I hear about them is bad yet the one he had worked great on more than one trip to the range .

    The manual suggested using stripper clips for a fast reload .
     
  7. RL357Mag

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    BKT you live in NY too. How are you going to explain your way out of handing in your handguns if you haven't claimed them stolen or had them legally transferred to someone else? Long guns are not the concern - when they come for those it'll be all out anarchy.
     
  8. Dillinger

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    That was something that I did not know - I will have to do some research on that.

    That said - They sure aren't making them that way anymore....

    JD
     
  9. DSAPT9

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    I know you said in the last 50 years but it still fits the bill. The C96 Mauser.

    Feed system 6, 10 or 20-round integral or detachable magazine; 40-round detachable magazines were also made

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauser_C96
     
  10. BigO01

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    Regardless of the few examples we can find this is insane but good for us in the long run .

    Remember it was DC that appealed to the Supreme Court NOT Heller , this means the Appeals court agrees with whats right at least to a degree .

    All of this means to us that the DC idiots may find themselves getting slapped with a Contempt of court without anything else ever going to the Supremes if they keep refusing to ignore all higher court rulings .

    I don't know any judges but if I were an appellate judge and they just thought they could ignore me and the Supreme Court I would do whatever was in my power to show them otherwise .
     
  11. bkt

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    I own no handguns. I'd like to, certainly, but I have no permit.

    I have no permit precisely because I refuse to register my name and my firearms with the government. The only reason to register firearms is to make it easier for government to confiscate them later on.

    That's right.
     
  12. c3shooter

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    Those of us that live in Virginia would ask that you encourage your Congresscritter to approve funding for immediate construction of the fence. Not for the border with Mexico, but to keep the idiots in DC! Calling a cat a duck does not make it a duck, and calling a semi-auto pistol a machinegun does not make it one. I am irritated because the idiots are using MY MONEY to defend their actions. And you should be, too.
     
  13. Dillinger

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    Yeah - I completely forgot about the good folks from Mauser, good catch. My bad on that one....

    But still - who would buy a top feed, stripper clip semi auto when you can use gravity to your advantage and facilitate a reload?

    I'm with BigO - This is just a Contempt charge WAITING to happen.

    The good news is, whatever pimp hand slapping is handed down because of this just might work as a deterent to other cities before they get too carried away.

    I feel for the Heller guy though, talk about an emotional rollercoaster that guy is on....

    JD
     
  14. DSAPT9

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    I agree I prefer a bottom feeder (probably not a good term to use for a firearm) myself as well. I wonder if it was planed as the next step in the process. I mean he went down with a 7 shot auto loader so as not to challenge the 12 round rule just the semi-auto part. Like they say one step at a time and baby steps will get you farther faster than getting bogged down in deep mud right off the bat.

    The first battle was won now for the next step in the processes.