there's no difference between 10mm and .45

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by mountainman13, Jul 25, 2012.

  1. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    Except price
    That's what I was told tonight after being handed a $22 box of 10mm.
    Any responses or comments? Lol
     
  2. texaswoodworker

    texaswoodworker New Member

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    Put a 45 ACP in a 10mm and see what happens. :rolleyes:
     

  3. tri70

    tri70 New Member

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    My brother was a cop for 2 yrs and he was out shooting with his captain and he accidentally grabbed his 40 S&W instead of his 45ACP,it did shoot but not eject right. In fact he fired 3 or 4 shots thru his Kimber before his realized it was an ammo problem and not the gun.
    That being said, I think the 45 is easier to shoot than the 40. I think both are deadly rounds and you might get a little more range from the 40, if you shoot either a lot you can be deadly from any range.
     
  4. BRAD313

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    Lol don't put a 10 mm in a 45
     

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  5. rjd3282

    rjd3282 New Member

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    What moron told you that? I hope you straightened him out. :eek:
     
  6. steve666

    steve666 New Member

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    Just because you buy your ammo at [​IMG] doesn't mean you should listen to their idiot clerks.
     
  7. 44magmike

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    No difference except price!! Lol except the fact the 10mm is more powerful than 45acp( 10mm has more energy than even a 357 mag) 10mm has a smaller bullet diameter.. I dunno maybe the 10mm and 45acp come in a same colored box. Lol
     
  8. mountainman13

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    Not from Walmart. I'm hoping he was just busting my balls sometimes it's hard to tell if he's trying to force his opinion or if he's serious. It sure got me going though. I walked away and couldn't help but turn to my buddy and say. "He's so full of sh!t it's simple physics, heavier bullet higher velocity means more punch "
     
  9. Rick1967

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    I am guessing that you are saying they are the same ballistically. I know that you know they are not the same cartridge and not interchangeable.

    My Hodgdon reloading manual shows max speed for a 200 grain bullet in 10mm at 1172 using longshot powder. The max for .45 with a 200 grain bullet is 1013 again with long shot. The max my book shows for the 10 mm is a 200 grain bullet. The .45 data goes up to 230 grains. I am sure people use heavier bullets for the 10 than 200. But I often load 255 grain lead bullets in my 45. The pressure levels are much much higher in the 10mm though.

    Hmm. I have changed my mind sitting here typing this. I have heard a lot of people say the 10 is more powerful. I am thinking maybe not. Going from a 45 down to a 40 to pick up 159 fps. I think I will stick with my .45s. A 255 grain bullet is nothing to laugh about.
     
  10. mountainman13

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    Now you got me wanting to see more load data to compare the two. I know I've seen 265 grain bullets for the 10mm and if I remember they were still moving over 1000 fps. The max I've seen out of the 10mm was in the 700 fpe range about 200 fpe short of a .44 mag.
     
  11. ktmboyz

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    Maybe the fool was thinking 10mm vs 40s&w ? 10mm is the same case dia just longer and has large primer.. along with much more pressure :eek: Should work fine in a 40 cal ;)
     
  12. KeysKelly

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    The way I understand it is the 10mm is a lot more powerful but has a lot more recoil and is very difficult to shoot accurately. I read in Handgun Magazine that the FBI was using the 10mm as their standard issue gun and stopped, switching to the .40, because the agents were having such a hard time controlling the shots. The .40 is pretty much a necked down, weaker version of the 10 mm somewhat the same as a .380 and a 9mm.

    The .45 will commonly have bigger/heavier bullets than a 10mm but the 10mm will consistantly travel a lot faster than a .45 ACP.
     
  13. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    Hard to control my a$$. FBI must have some limp wristed sallys. Lmfao
     

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  14. Dillinger

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    The FBI was concerned about the size of the grip, not just the recoil, for their smaller, female and Asian, agents. When they "downgraded" to the .40 S&W round they noticed and overall increase in marksmanship scores.

    Then again I don't imagine Robocop10mm was among those they tested before hand. :eek:

    JD
     
  15. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    Can't argue about the grip. I'm contemplating working mine down a bit.
     
  16. Dillinger

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    Agreed. I have some decent sized paws and when I hefted one of the 10mm 1911 offerings I felt it was a tad on the largish size. Not that I would look at selling it if someone gave me one. :cool:

    JD
     
  17. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    Yeah I have rather small hands. If I could work the grip down closer to that of the glock 19 it would be perfect.
     
  18. Dillinger

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    Did you just use the words "Glock" and "perfect" in the same sentence?? :eek:

    You're dead to me. :cool:

    JD
     
  19. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    Lmfao. I should have guessed you're a 1911 man. If it makes you feel better I own both and am not glock crazy but have to admit they work well for me personally. And yes I spent 4 months looking for a pre-ban glock 20.
     
  20. Dillinger

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    LOL - I just like to propogate the belief that you are either on one side or the other. :p

    I have shot just about every model, and while they are not for me, I believe they are a great weapon that will go bang everytime. I shoot them okay, not great, but good enough.

    I have a guy I used to work with who had a famous saying anytime the subject comes up. Doyle says he only shows his Glocks to his enemy but shows everyone else his 1911's.... LOL