There Can Be Only One

Discussion in 'Other Weapons' started by Benning Boy, Aug 20, 2010.

  1. Benning Boy

    Benning Boy New Member

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    This is more of a vanity project for me. It probably won't get many views or replies, and that's okay.

    I love swords. Always have.

    I've taken some formal training, but here's the big problem with modern sword schools: it's all theory.

    I intend to remove it from the realm of theory. How to do this?

    Cutting.

    So let's get this out of the way. Swords are like martial arts training in these respects.

    1) Disagreement about style- I don't care what your Sensei says. Not every style suits everybody. You aren't invincible.

    2) Forget the movies- Historically, real sword fights were not long drawn out chess matches. I cut, and if I miss, I'm pretty much screwed.

    3) More alike than you think- To be completely honest, there are really only so many ways to swing that sword. Wanna know why some cuts in Asian styles look like European ones? See the first sentence.
     
  2. Dillinger

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    I am intrigued... and a little worried. :eek:
     

  3. Benning Boy

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    So what am I doing?

    As I said, I have some formal training. I did not finish, for a couple of reasons. Primary among them was the fact that I could attain black belt in this sword style without a steel sword.

    That's right. Be an expert swordsman, doing your whole training career with some red oak. Bull.

    I have a few different swords, I'll be cutting some stuff with them. I also want to acquire a few different styles of swords. It is my belief that some swords are better suited for different guys than others.

    I've bought some junk in my time, and I'll tell you what to look out for, as I'll probably be discovering this as I go. I've got a line on some good manufacturers and distributors, this should be expensive and fun.
     
  4. Dillinger

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    I was just discussing swords last night with Mrs. JD as we watched some Deadliest Warrior and they were testing some Persian, curved, khurka looking thing that just destroyed a pig carcass. I was wondering if anyone made one of those today, a quality one, and how much strength one would need to just hack and slash and entire field of enemies with that in one's hand.

    Where do you shop for quality sword steel Benning?
     
  5. Benning Boy

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    So let's get this out of the way.....

    I am not an expert on this, I do not claim to be.

    You may take sword somewhere formally. Cool, share what you've learned, respectfully. We will probably have different views and experiences, and we can learn if we keep our minds open.

    I, frankly, don't buy much of what my instructor told me. I know he tried a practical exercise, and failed miserably. Some of what he offered was of value, and some was hype.

    Do not try anything in here at home. Even cheap garbage swords can kill.
     
  6. Benning Boy

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    I missed this episode, so what I can find online is that in this one, the Persians had a Kopis.

    Did it look like this?
     

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  7. Dillinger

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    Eh, it kind of looked like that, but the front end of the blade was much wider, had more belly and was almost front end heavy. The thing was a beast on the pig, that is for sure.

    Let me see if I can find the episode....
     
  8. Benning Boy

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    If this is the one, the Kopis made it's way through Egypt, Greece, an a couple other places.

    The one pictured isn't authentic, and it's produced, I believe, by Windlass Steelcrafts.

    Windlass, in my experience, is a tad shaky. I had a Windlass bearded Viking axe, and snapped the head in half.

    The first sword I ever owned was a Windlass Scimitar. Problem one, I didn't read the fine print, it did not come sharpened.

    Problem 2- The fittings were loose. The pommel was threaded on, and would twist off when I swung it.

    It was a well balanced and lively sword, but the handle was small, too small for my hand.
     
  9. Benning Boy

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    More like this?
     

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  10. Dillinger

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    I had my episodes confused, it was Vlad the Impalers boys and their wicked sword....

    Sun Tzu vs. Vlad the Impaler | SPIKE

    It's about 9:00 or so into the video and the thing is wicked!
     
  11. Benning Boy

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    Sword shopping, on the whole, is a nightmare. Most of what's out there is junk, stuff meant to hang on the wall, you'll hear the phrase "wallhanger" quite a bit.

    A couple rules....

    1) Stainless- No, no, no. A sword needs to be carbon steel. From what I've read, stainless, as far as edged weapons, is fine on anything up to 12", after that it becomes brittle.

    The stainless one I had did indeed snap easily, so I buy the carbon steel theory.

    2) Spot welded tangs- NO, NO, NO! These can snap just by swinging the sword, not actually making contact.
     
  12. Benning Boy

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    Okay, DID see that one, yeah, wicked sword. The guy wielding it makes them.

    *research*
     
  13. Benning Boy

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    And cannot find one for sale....:mad:
     

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  14. Dillinger

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    Now that is unfortunate. However, if we could modify or take one of his blades, combine it with a more traditional Japanese katana, two handed sized handle, that thing would be the slayer of slayers. *manical grin*
     
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    There Can Be Only One.

    One of my favorite TV shows...
     

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  16. Dillinger

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    I have that sword replica. Loved the idea of an ivory Dragon Head and simply HAD to have it. The blade isn't worth a damn though. :eek:
     
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    As a boy, my escape was reading. Mostly about King Arthur. I've since had a fascination with the medieval swords. I found a cool link to some of them here: Medieval Swords
     
  18. Dillinger

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    Confession Time. There is a Renaissance Faire ( that's how they spell it, so eff off ) about 10 minutes from the house and we are going this weekend to check out all the booths, and get a real braut with stone ground mustard.

    I was going to take pictures for Benning & taunt him. LOL
     
  19. Benning Boy

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    I find multiple ads for the Kilij, our Vlad sword, and when I click on, I get the damn "300" movie replica.