the time has come...

Discussion in '.22 Rifle/Rimfire Discussion' started by UrbanNinja, Dec 18, 2011.

  1. UrbanNinja

    UrbanNinja New Member

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    Recently I made the decision to teach my 8y/o son how to shoot. I thought he may be too young, but after speaking with some of you other fathers on here and gathering some great info... I figured its time. So today while at the local gun show I picked up this little Sears Roebuck model 3T. Semi auto, tube fed that fires .22 in all variants.. $80 out the door. It is in very nice shape for its age with minimal use. I hope he enjoys his Christmas gift as much as I hope to enjoy spending some range time with my boy.
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  2. Triumphman

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    Nice rifle, but I think it's a little too advanced for him if problems arise with jamming and stock being too long to shoulder it properly. I would of gotten a New England Cricket or Rossi break-open, or some other single shot rifle to learn with that have shorter stocks for a young child. Remember, he's learning how to shoot properly and all they need is one shot to learn on how to place that shot and not the dangers involved with having 10 more shots in a tube and all they need to do is just pull the trigger as many times as they want. I understand that you'll be right there also, but the Child will also need to understand, that missing his target is OK too, and for him to develop better shooting skills, it takes more than just the rifle, so 1 shot has to count. These are just my opinions, but that is a nice rifle.
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  3. UrbanNinja

    UrbanNinja New Member

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    You are right about it being a little too big for him. I chose this one over the cricket because of a few reasons...
    1: The color. The Brown stock to me gives it a "real" weapon look. There were many crickets at the show but they were all different colors (pink,blue,etc...) I want my son to look at the rifle and see a tool, not a toy. Maybe its a strange reason but its just something I felt more comfortable with.

    2: The size. Once again it is larger than the cricket and I did consider this being a factor. I figure I can use this to the advantage of making his experience a little more fun. He enjoys playing 'soldier' and what young boy doesn't? So I can throw small bi-pod on the front and have the rifle propped up for him or teach him to shoot while laying down. Once again probably another silly reason but i think this would be a good way to keep his attention. Of course once he learns to respect the weapon and understands the damage it does,we will then move on to his stance,shouldering,carrying,loading,unloading,etc..
    Now.. when we do move on to these things I WILL buy the cricket for him. I never planned on this rifle to be his actual first one.. it will be used to learn the basics and be kept for when he has outgrown the cricket.

    You mention the tube feed.. of course I would never load more then one round at a time. Also another good reason for the size and weight. If there were by any chance more then one round in the tube, he could not just pick up and start swinging in every direction. I would teach him better than that but he is also a child and children dont always have the steady attention when they are excited.

    My reasons may be a little "out there" but it is helping myself feel a little more comfortable teaching him, and if I am not comfortable,then I should not be teaching him at all. This is a big New world for him to step in to. I want to have everything covered. If any of you think I am wrong.. please tell me. I will not be offended and all opinions are welcomed. I want to make this experience safe, simple and fun for the both of us to enjoy and remember forever.
     
  4. kenhesr

    kenhesr New Member

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    I've taught my kids & the grandkids how to shoot. One thing about it, you end up with some safety minded, competent shooting buddies.

    IMHO 8yrs is about right. OUTSTANDING, thats one lucky boy you have there Urban!!!
     
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  5. UrbanNinja

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    Thank you very much. I just really hope he enjoys this as much as i will. I have always shielded him from firearms, I now understand that was the wrong thing to do. With the input I gathered from other members, I feel ive made the right choice. I cant hide my guns forever and I dont want his curiosity getting the best of him.
     
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  6. Triumphman

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    Your Son will be one lucky boy on Xmas morning. Sounds like you thought things through well. Have you looked at any cross referencing for this rifle? Looks to be a little Remington model by it's styling.
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  7. aandabooks

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    To me it looks quite a bit like a Winchester 190/290.

    To the OP, outstanding idea to get you boy into shooting a nice young age. Good choice to go with something that he won't outgrow quickly and a gun that doesn't break the bank. Your boy will have a Christmas morning that he'll remember for years to come.
     
  8. UrbanNinja

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    I believe you're correct. A bit of research I did shows this rifle is a clone of the 190 from Winchester. It was built by Winchester for Sears & Roebuck around the 1960s.
     
  9. trip286

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    My first shooter was a sears roebuck revelation, which is the same as a marlin 60 I believe.

    It was a bit large for a 5 year old, but with proper respect towards firearms already taught to me, it only encouraged me to be more careful.

    Good job OP
     
  10. TLuker

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    That will be a really good gun. I grew up shooting the Winchester of that model.

    Also, I don't how big your son's stature is but I wouldn't think he would have any problem handling and shooting that gun. As for it being too complicated, well that's how we learn and that'll be a great gun for him to learn on.

    And I really liked your comments about it being a tool and not toy. That's a great point.
     
  11. UrbanNinja

    UrbanNinja New Member

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    Thank you Sir. That is the goal I am hoping to achieve with my son. Id like him to learn respect and have an understanding of how dangerous it can be if not properly safe while around the rifle.


    thank you also...
    As for the boys size, he is tall for his age and has a pretty decent reach but, he is a bit on the skinny side... he can almost disappear if he turns sideways lol. He may have the reach but im not sure about the strength. I guess we will find out next week!
     
  12. UrbanNinja

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    A couple more photos... size comparison next to my SKS, and I forgot to put the scope on in the first photos. The scope appears to be original to the rifle but there are no markings of any kind.
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  13. willfully armed

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    Thanks Willfully Armed, when I put New England, I was thinking that it didn't seem correct.
    I like that sportized SKS there Urban Ninja, it turned a outdated rifle into a nice looking modern piece. Makes me want to go out and get an SKS now and sporterize it. Make sure you snap a pic to post, of your Boy's expression when he opens that special gift.
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  15. UrbanNinja

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    I gladly will. I think I am more excited for Christmas morning now than he is. Lol. Also.. the SKS is nothing special. Just replaced the OE stock with a Monte Carlo nylon stock and painted it O.D. Green. Bayonet,lug and front sight base removed. Mounted an old rail to the dust cover and popped on a cheap tasco red dot.
     
  16. griffin81

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    Looks like a good first gun to me. My first gun of my own was a 20 gauge H&R single shot. I wish I still had it. So what ever you do when he gets older make sure he knows you never sell or trade your first gun. It looks like you both will have a wonderful Christmas.

    play the victim, be the victim
     
  17. UrbanNinja

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    I dont think that will be a problem for me. I have a few guns that im not fond of but yet I cant bring myself to get rid of them. Seems its easier to just keep them.
     
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    NICE! Goodbye treerats, hello smiles.

    My first was a .22 bolt when i was six, but i had a tube-fed 22 semi in a year or two (marlin model 60).
     
  19. therewolf

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    There's nothing like your first gun.

    I think you'll both enjoy many a day plinking with it.

    (P.S.-love the SKS, R-R-R!)
     
  20. UrbanNinja

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    I really hope so.. and thank you. Thanks to you all. Ive gotten much better responses than id hoped for. That really makes me feel much better when teaching time comes.. knowing that I have made a good decision on a weapon and timing to teach my boy. You gents have made a world of difference for me believe it or not, and I appreciate it much.