The Sistema 1911 Ceramacoat Project

Discussion in 'Engraving & Refinishing' started by CA357, Apr 17, 2010.

  1. CA357

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    When I had my Sistema 1911 customized, the 'smith blued it as part of the job. It was a matte blue and I tried to convince myself that I liked it, but I never really did. The pistol also had an very large import mark on the left side of the slide.

    So after hearing a suggestion about JB Weld and filling the mark, that's what I did. I filled it, then filed and sanded it down and the photos show it now. It is still somewhat there, but I got it down low enough and filled enough that I'm hoping it will disappear when I apply the Ceramacoat.

    Tomorrow, I'm going to my buddy's place to Ceramacoat and bake it. He's a bachelor and I can smell his house up, rather than take heat from my wife about stinking up ours. ;)

    I'll take the camera and take some pics along the way as I do the process.

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  2. CA357

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    For some reason, the pics aren't showing up from Photobucket. :rolleyes:

    BTW, the Ceramacoat is from Midway, the price was $28.99 plus shipping.
     
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  3. Ruzai

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    Try using ImageShack. I want to see what the results look like. Been wondering if the baking stuff is any good compared to dip-tank bluing and what-not.

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  4. CA357

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    I just tried to upload pics again and no joy. For some reason, Photobucket uploads aren't working for me this weekend. Anyway, I'll be doing the deal this afternoon.
     
  5. CA357

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    I just finished detail stripping it and used Hoppe's Elite to clean all the parts. I filed down the areas on both sides of the frame where the grip safety fits as it seemed to be rubbing the finish off the sides of the safety. I also filed and sanded (#320 grit) some of the dings and knots that were still there.

    It's a 51 year old pistol, so it won't ever be perfect, but I wanted to clean it up as best as I could.

    Now I have to wait until later to hit my buddy's place. I'll use BrakeClean on it and blow it off with the compressor before applying the ceramacoat.

    I bought mechanic's wire yesterday for hanging the parts to be sprayed and I'll have to de-grease the wire as well.

    I'll take pictures and hopefully Photobucket will get a grip and I'll be able to post them.
     
  6. M14sRock

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    I'm looking forward to seeing how it turns out Don. When I've used the Gun Kote bake on, by holding the can farther away and "dusting" on light coats over a heavier base coat, the imperfections seems to almost disappear.

    I'll be curious to see how the Ceramacoat works on the JB Weld.

    No luck on finding a machine shop to let you aluminum oxide blast the slide flats? That would really blend in the steel and JB Weld.
     
  7. CA357

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    I think it will pretty much go away. I'll use light coats.
     
  8. CA357

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    I just got home. Three coats, half an hour dry time in between, then one hour at 350 degrees in the oven. I checked it several times while the parts baked, because if it's too hot, the parts will turn brown.

    I have the parts laid out and took pics of before, the parts hanging to be sprayed and just now, the finished parts. They came out a pretty nice matte black. I just followed the directions and as was said here and also in the directions, sprayed light coats.

    The import mark has pretty much disappeared. I'm so compulsive that I can still see bit of a line, but I don't think anybody else will unless it's pointed out. It's pretty much vanished. :D

    Tomorrow, I'll assemble it when I have my wits about me. Right now, I'm tired. I keep forgetting that I had surgery three weeks ago and overdoing things. :rolleyes:

    Hopefully Photobucket will get their act together, or I'll find another deal and upload them from one of the ones that was suggested here.
     
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    Glad the JB Weld thing worked, Don. That was just a wild idea, you know? Ha.

    I sent some Photobucket pics earlier just fine. Did not load any new ones, though. Can't wait to see some pics of the finished product.

    How does the finish feel?
     
  10. CA357

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    It feels quite smooth and kind of looks like the black finish on the Para Ordinance 1911's, maybe slightly more matte. I'll take some pictures in daylight tomorrow and will hopefully be able to post them. I don't know how it will wear and hold up, but it looks pretty darn good. I did the best that I could with it.

    BTW, I'm PO'd that I paid an additional $200. for the 'smith to blue it and it was crap. I'm writing it off to experience, but I don't have to like it.
     
  11. CA357

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    It won't be going back together until I get a new plunger spring from Brownell's. I wrapped the wire around the spring as a way to hole the safety and slide stop plungers to coat. Consequently, the spring is quite tweaked.

    I just ordered it and a 16lb. recoil spring from Brownell's and will cool my jets until it arrives. The recoil spring that's in there now seems overpowered, so I'll see how it operates with the lighter spring. I don't shoot +P's in it.
     
  12. M14sRock

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    How's the Systema coming along Don? Any luck getting your photobucket acct up and running?
     
  13. CA357

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    I just got home from the retreat, so I don't know about Photobucket yet. I'll have it back together this week sometime and will post pics somehow.
     
  14. M14sRock

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    Cool. Thanks.
     
  15. CA357

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    I'm having some problems reassembling it for some reason. The issue has been the thumb safety. It would not engage properly. So I disassembled everything and will start over on the frame.

    Unfortunately, I scratched up the safety and the frame a bit removing it. So, I just ordered another can of CeramaCoat and will redo the parts then try again.

    I don't know why the thumb safety was jamming, because it was hand fitted by the smith that customized the pistol for me.

    If I still have trouble on the second try, I'll bring it to my friend and have him reassemble it for me. However, I really want to do it myself and get it right. I realize that I'm not a gunsmith and have limited skills, but it should go back together simply enough.
     
  16. dunerunner

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    Welcome back CA, good to see you getting on with this project.
     
  17. CA357

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    Thanks Duner. Right now, it's one step forward and two steps back. :eek:
     
  18. Ruzai

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    I know the feeling CA. I'm trying to redo an old revolver and every time I try and fix it up, I find something else that needs work. Sorry to hear it didnt come out at planned. I know the feeling of wanting to put it back together yourself, you get the feeling of knowing your pistol better and all that good stuff.
     
  19. CA357

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    Now, I have to re-Cerama-Coat the frame, thumb safety and mainspring housing. I buggered them up trying to reassemble then disassemble them again.

    I think I know what I did wrong. When I reinstalled the thumb safety, I had to jam it in. I think it must have needed finesse, not force. Anyway, I think that was the problem. :rolleyes:
     
  20. ccr

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    Tolerences may be the problem you may have to sand some of the finish out of the holes before installing the parts