The reviews say...

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by NGIB, Sep 30, 2009.

  1. NGIB

    NGIB New Member

    Other than the obligatory copy of American Rifleman I get for being an NRA member - I do not read any gun magazines. I have a real problem with reading all the glowing reports and reviews on every gun they feature. Yes, I know they need the advertising $$$ from the gun makers; however, objectivity should be paramount if you're going to make recommendations on how folks spend their hard earned dollars.

    I find that real life experience is the way to judge whether a handgun is a good value. If I'm considering something I have no experience with - I'll ask here and get honest answers.

    Anybody else feel this way about the gun rags?
  2. Troy Michalik

    Troy Michalik Is it Friday yet? Supporter

    Yes, yes I do feel the same way. I rarely if ever read them. The only real exception is if the lines are long at the store. I'll swing by the magazine rack and pick up one to browse while I stand in line, because everyone knows there are never any guy magazines at the checkout.

    The trouble with that is that there are a few people out there that treat guns like some folks treat fantasy football. They have subscriptions to every mag printed, and can recite the complete ballistics table for the 300 whisper upon request. And since a few of these "fantasygun" folks (or is the correct term Mall Ninja?) know that I have my FFL, expect me to be able to do the same.

    Either that or I am being asked "How much is a _________" Often my response is "I don't know, how much is a"

    My favorite is "How much is an AR-15?"
    "Which one?"
    After that, it's an even 50/50 whether I get a blank stare or "Uh, Bushmaster."
    And once you start asking about carbines, stocks, grips, flattop... ect. ,they usually just walk away.
    Last edited: Sep 30, 2009

  3. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

    I think they're just a vehicle to advertise for the various manufacturers, I don't buy them.
  4. mpd8488

    mpd8488 New Member

    Doesn't matter whether it's gun rags, car rags, tool rags, or anything. I enjoy reading them, but I don't count on their opinions for any of my purchases because my needs and wants are different than the reviewers.
  5. Yunus

    Yunus Active Member

    I think American Rifleman is worse than others. I don't think I have ever read a negative review from them.
  6. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

    I haven't bought a gun magazine since I have been going to SHOT to be honest.

    When I was overseas, I bought everyone I could get my hands on, just to say current, and in that role, they were priceless.

    As a source for a gun purchase? Definitely not. I have read WAY TOO MANY glowing reports about this factory weapon shooting incrediable groups only to see one in the shop a year later for a complete overhaul.

    I think forum information, if from respected members, is far more valuable than any gun magazine could ever be to a consumer.

  7. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

    Like me you have to take it with a grain of salt.
  8. NGIB

    NGIB New Member

    Loved the caveat JD, now all we need is a ready reference list of "respected members"...:D
  9. slowryde45

    slowryde45 New Member

    I don't subscribe to any of the mags, but occasionally I will buy one or read it while the wife is shopping in the store, if there is something that interests me in it - or to keep up with any of the latest tactikool ninja accessories that may have come out. j/k :cool:

    As for the reviews, I will browse them to see the features of the item, if there isn't one locally that I can fondle to find out :p

    But as far as purchasing, that is based on my experience while fondling the item:p, or by renting one at the range, shooting someone else's, doing research on the net/factory site, etc. - but final decision is based on how I feel with that particular piece, not by hearsay or by any writer's opinion.

    Just the way I roll. :cool:
  10. Mark F

    Mark F Active Member Supporter

    I don't waist my time or money on magazines...
  11. stalkingbear

    stalkingbear Well-Known Member

    Hands on experience is the only thing I can offer. The bad thing is I usually see firearms when they're at their worst. Sometimes I get guns in for custom work or action tunes, things like that, but usually they come to me because they're broken or malfunctioning. I do have several firearms of my own and have developed some rather strong opinions over the 28 years I've been a gunsmith.
  12. masterPsmith

    masterPsmith New Member

    I'm pretty much the same as Bear, after 43 years as a gunsmith I have formed my own opinions also. I have not read a gun magazine for several years except for my American Rifleman. I bet if you put us together, Bear and I could write up a hell of a gun review magazine that the manufactures would not like at all. I don't know if it is still out there but, there used to be a no BS magazine called Gun Tests Magazine. They didn't pull any punches and didn't use manufactures advertising money. They were very objective in their testing. I have not seen one in many moons........

  13. NGIB

    NGIB New Member

    Jim & Bear, I'm happy that y'all choose to hangout here and help all of us. Real hands-on experience is the only thing that matters. While I've owned and tinkered with a bunch of pistols, I'm about as far removed from being a gunsmith as you can imagine...
  14. Highpower

    Highpower New Member

    "Howard Johnson is RIGHT!" -- Blazing Saddles
    (That is... I concur.) ;)
  15. Cnynrat

    Cnynrat New Member

    Anyone looking for gun tests that aren't biased by advertising may want to check out Gun Tests. Small rag with no advertising, and they will definitely pan any product that doesn't perform for them.
  16. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

    "Being of the old school - the very old school - I wish to warn youthful readers against putting their faith in 'gun writers.' These people have a right to their opinions, but these opinions should not be taken as incontro-vertible. As a youth I was led astray on a number of subjects and had to learn of my errors by personal field experience. The fact that a man "has been there and done that" does not necessarily mean that he knows what he is talking about. Read as much as you wish, but read critically, and then submit your conclusions to the test. This is not always possible, so read carefully, read critically, and then reserve judgment. " Lieutenant Colonel Jeff Cooper (1920-2006)