The old commie is gone

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  1. boatme98

    boatme98 New Member

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    Well, that old, red,campus mainstay, Pete Seger has finally died. 94 years of listening to that comrade tout the glories of a system he himself wouldn't live under. He steadfastly remained in the US, collecting pay and royalties for his anti capitalist tripe.

    Koomh Bayah, and say hello to Uncle Joe and Hugo.
     
  2. Vincine

    Vincine New Member

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    From the LA Times:
    “As the group's popularity grew, so did interest in Seeger's connection to the Communist Party, which he had joined at Harvard. He once believed the party would help the common man, he said, but had spurned it in disgust by 1949.

    How many of you had 'revolutinary ideas' when you were young? What's that line about heart & brains again?

    From the NYT:
    “But “Red Channels,” an influential pamphlet listing performers with suspected Communist ties, appeared in June 1950 and listed Mr. Seeger, although by then he had quit the Communist Party. He would later criticize himself for having not left the party sooner, though he continued to describe himself as a “communist with a small ‘c.’ ”

    I don’t know that having sympathy for working people and antipathy toward plutocrats necessarily equates with being against Capitalism and/or for Communism. He was against the stacked deck, as am I.

    (Full disclosure; I also believe in decentralization and small community integrity. I believe centralization of power, whether within the Beltway, the Kremlin, or anywhere else, inevitably results in abuse of authority.)
     
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  3. TankTop

    TankTop Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Everyone should be for some form of communal living, it's a communist government that you can't have. Here's the catch 22 with communism, it sounds wonderful to value others and the community more than oneself but the fundamental idea of value is derived from valuing self first which communism eliminates. The Bible teaches to love your neighbor like yourself, in other words you must know how to love yourself before you have the ability to love others and communism destroys the idea of self. It has no possible end except in dictatorship, the people have lost the motivation for community because they have lost the idea of self and communal living must now be dictated.
     
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    There is a reason most entertainers do not understand the plight of the middle class. They usually go from being very poor to very wealthy and skip right over it. I think Pete meant well but didn't get it.

    I have nothing against old hippies that used to be communists. They only get one vote so fair is fair. MY problem is with current Presidents who have communist leanings......and the mindless drones who support him because their brains are stuck in 'N'
     
  5. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    Military service: US Army (1942-45)

    This "commie" served our country like most other men during WWII. He protested the Vietnam war......as did I and many others. That war was a nightmarish war we should never have been involved in. I supported the men and women fighting but I abhored the war.

    Pete Seeger was a good, honest man who had a huge heart. Married to the same woman for over 70 years.

    Thank you to all the others supporting Pete in this thread. He was an honorable and honest man who stood up for what he believed in, just as the OP is here.
     
  6. WNGMSTR

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    I guess I missed the part of him being alive until today.....

    His son reported he was choppin' wood a few days ago.....Vaya Con Dios bendejo.
     
  7. dango

    dango Well-Known Member Lifetime Supporter

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    So then , what kind of Gov. Are we living..?
     
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    If you're judging by the symptoms....
     
  9. Mercator

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    Seger probably understood in 1949 what took some others much longer: That Soviet Communism was a smokescreen for recruiting useful idiots to advance the new Russian Empire. But he probably was a starry eyed commie of the domestic variety, with a different sort of smoke in his head. R.I.P.

    There is no comparison between the US govt, including the current administration, and the Kremlin. Anyone who thinks there is, has a little Seger in him.
     
  10. Overkill0084

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    An older item (2007) that discusses Seeger's actual life vs. the film version of it. Agree/ disagree, whatever. It's a worthwhile read.

    http://www.nysun.com/arts/time-for-pete-seeger-to-repent/56379/
     
  11. Mercator

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    To properly place him on the great campus in the sky, the real question is, was he 2A or anti? I don't know.
     
  12. Overkill0084

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    He was a proud communist. I can't say as a matter of absolute fact, but if I were betting, I'd bet on anti. Communist doctrine and no-kidding individual rights are incompatible.
     
  13. limbkiller

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    The azzhole is dead. GOOD. All like him need to die, slowly or fast I don't care. He was a commie and the only good one is a dead one as has been said a bunch. Frig him and all who are like him.
     
  14. Vincine

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    It's always a pleasure to read the carefully articulated, subtle, and nuanced responses from those with black and white political views. ;)
     
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    . In the past decade, Mr. Seeger has received the National Medal of the Arts from President Clinton and has been fêted at the Kennedy Center. A recent profile in the Washington Post style section proclaimed him a "national treasure" and America's "best-loved Commie." A few years ago, Mr. Seeger was invited to speak at the National Press Club. Just two months ago, the Library of Congress held an all-day tribute to him. After all of this, shouldn't a new documentary give its audience an accurate and honest account of his life?

    In Mr. Brown's film, Bruce Springsteen calls Mr. Seeger a great "citizen-activist" on camera. There are more accolades from all the usual suspects — Bonnie Raitt, Natalie Manes of the Dixie Chicks, Joan Baez, and Peter Yarrow and Mary Travers. But when it comes to specifically addressing Mr. Seeger's politics, whom do we see on camera? First comes Charlene Mitchell, a former Communist Party leader and Presidential candidate, and then Henry Foner, a union official and lifelong fellow traveler.

    There is no buddies name in this that I respect. And yes I am mostly black and white in my political beliefs. Proud of it. I'm way to the right of the tea party. Have been a patriot to the constitution and founding fathers since I was 12. Read lots and don't watch much TV. I KNOW the country is under attack from within and don't care for it at all.
     
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  16. boatme98

    boatme98 New Member

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    He restated in both 1995 and 2000 "I'm still a communist."
    It doesn't get any more transparent than that.
     
  17. mopowerbmx

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    Guys he was an American. No matter what he thought or what you think. He was an American. Just like most of us don't like what this administration is doing or Carter Clinton Bush or Reagan or whoever is in office,we are all Americans. Freedom is accomplished by all involved. That is why we are free. Half of America make sure's the other half is in check. When one calls for incompetence the other stands strong. We compromise. Some of what he protested against we disagree with. But some of what he protested against we agree.I am of old ideology and respect the dead. No matter if I agree or disagree of who the person was.
     
  18. SSGSF

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    Good riddance to a dead war protester. And a commie.
     
  19. donthav1

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    i find it funny that when Kalishnakov died, he got so much praise on this forum. makes me wonder if Pete designed a gun would some of you have a different view of him........
     
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