The new .22 Mag round

Discussion in '.22 Rifle/Rimfire Discussion' started by tinbucket, Jun 29, 2014.

  1. tinbucket

    tinbucket Well-Known Member

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    Anyone have a rifle in the fairly new Win .22 Magnum or super magnum, or whatever it is labeled?
    I can't find a mag with the article on it. It was just about to catch on when, all the ammo for everything disappeared from shelves.
    I have a 10.22 Magnum and thought, when I first read of it maybe a conversion but.... the pressures may be too high for blowback and the shell too long etc?
     
  2. Highpower

    Highpower New Member

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    :confused:

    Do you mean the Winchester 17 Super Magnum?
     

  3. limbkiller

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  4. Mercator

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    The Savage B-something in that caliber is sold everywhere. A real bargain it seems but sells slow. I am not giddy to get in another costly caliber, so waiting to hear more like OP.
     
  5. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Well, the .17 HMR is a .22Magnum necked down to .17 caliber. The .17 Winchester Super Magnum is based on the .27 caliber blank cartridge used in power nailers- it is thicker brass, higher pressures than the .17 HMR, higher velocities (about 3000 fps)- again, necked down to .17 caliber.

    They attempted a semi auto .17 HMR, and pulled (most of) them off the market. There are few firearms in the .17 WSM, and only 2 that I know of in semi- the Volquartsen semi-automatic, and the semi-automatic Franklin Armory F-17.

    If all you had to do was rechamber, somebody would be doing that. Pressures are likely to be way to high to swap out a gun based on .22 LR.
     
  6. John_Deer

    John_Deer New Member

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    When I shoot 30 gr 22wmr ammo the wind blows it around like a 22 cal pellet rifle. 17 cal ammo is much lighter than 30gr and only marginally faster than a 22 wmr with a light bullet. On windy says I prefer 45gr 22wmr ammo. Yes it is much slower but ir gets to the target without being blown off target by 3 or 4 inches. I fail to see the point or any 17 cal firearm unless you are shooting indoors.
     
  7. clr8ter

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    To date, I have not read much good about the 17WSM, or the guns it's chambered in. (Not many). I also haven't seen the ammo for sale.
     
  8. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    i think if i were going to replace my Savage rifle in 17HMR, it would probably be the Savage in 17 Hornet. it's a 22 Hornet necked down to a 17 caliber. plus it's a centerfire cartridge, so it could be reloaded, which would give me an advantage over my 17HMR rifle that i have now.
     
  9. clr8ter

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    You'd probably HAVE to reload it, too, huh? I wonder what that ammo would cost? Or if you could even find it....
     
  10. MisterMcCool

    MisterMcCool Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I believe I'll wait for the .17 Eargesplitten Loudenboomer. :p


    No offense and none taken
     
  11. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    MidwayUSA lists two different ammo selections for the 17 Hornet.

    http://www.midwayusa.com/find?sortby=1&itemsperpage=24&newcategorydimensionid=14052

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.17_Hornet

    looking at the comparison in my load data books, powder charges for the 22 Hornet range about 8-12 gr. of powder, so a pound of powder would go a longways for reloading. prices of reloading components for comparison.

    http://www.midwayusa.com/find?sortby=1&itemsperpage=24&newcategorydimensionid=20562

    http://www.midwayusa.com/find?sortby=1&itemsperpage=24&newcategorydimensionid=20247

    depending on the lifespan of useable number of loads on the cases would determine whether that is expensive or not for the cases.

    http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-7717H.htm

    http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/...&type=Rifle&cal=17+Hornet&fin=&sit=&pid=&inv=
     
  12. clr8ter

    clr8ter New Member

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    Yeah, nearly a buck a shot for loaded ammo, and it's out of stock to boot....
     
  13. jpattersonnh

    jpattersonnh Active Member

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    The .17 Hornet is a great little round. But again, bullet selection needs some help. 20-25gr bullets just don't quite make it. If there was a 30-38gr that would help. I thought about a .22 Hornet, but since Southern NH is rimfire only for vermin, The .22WMR it is. I bought mine in the early 1990's. Browning A-Bolt gold medallion. Special order from the factory, 8 week wait. It was the most I had spent on a rifle to that point. $475.00. I saw one on Gun Broker some time back, just a Medallion though, $850.00. They were offered for 2.5 years as a special order. It is quite the rifle. Bolt throw is 30 degrees I believe. Trigger is 2lb from the factory. Now I like my Marlin 917V, But just when it started shooting well, it also started splitting brass at the neck. I've been going round and round with Remington about replacing the barrel. I've only fired a few hundred rounds through it in the field, but found the issue 1 month after the warrantee was over at the range. Never looked at the brass before. I'm not spending 120.00 + shipping for a $200.00 rifle. One reason I won't buy Remington.
     
  14. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    It has been out for a while. http://www.chuckhawks.com/17Rem.htm
     
  15. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    how about a 50 BMG round necked dow to a 22 or a 17 caliber!:p
     

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  16. Highpower

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  17. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    seriously, really?:p
     
  18. Highpower

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    Sorry...... it just cracks me up sometimes with the lengths we'll go to for just a liiiiiiiiitle bit more speed, whether it's bullets or cars or "fast food" or ..... :D

    Thank goodness for microwave ovens!
     
  19. mboylan

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    I would assume most people who have .17 Hornets roll there own.
     
  20. clr8ter

    clr8ter New Member

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    Uh, yeah, that's what the conversation that your quote was part of was about.