The Judge

Discussion in 'Revolver Handguns' started by CourtJester, Sep 30, 2010.

  1. CourtJester

    CourtJester Active Member

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    Taurus 45/410
    Anyone have one of these or shot one?
    What are your thoughts? I saw one at the shop today and have been thinking pretty hard and heavy.
     
  2. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    I personally think they are trying to make the 410 into something it's not. The idea of shooting a shotgun round from a handgun is cool on the surface but no practical. The 410 from a shotgun is mediocre at best for SD, even with the hopped up loads being offered now. 45LC is OK for cowboy action but for SD there are much better rounds out there. Taurus has spotty quality at best, if it were me, I would go elsewhere.....but that's me.
     

  3. krazykeny

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    The Judge is a bad handgun idea.

    .410 shot from a 2" barrel,
    will make determained Bad Guy so angry that he will KILL YOU.

    .45 long colt is so wildly inaccurate in tha small of a gun.
    Makes as dangerious to you, as the guy you are pointing it at.

    Can you even consider the recoil, and mussle blast from eather of those
    from a gun as small as that?

    Don't take my word for it, view it on you tube.
    Watch how wildly inaccurate it is fireing .410.
    Remember YOU are responsabe for where Every Pellet goes!

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjXq66wqs2A]YouTube - Taurus Judge: "Hollywood Justice" by Nutnfancy[/ame]

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGC1ajqSJGo]YouTube - Shooting a Public Defender[/ame]

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLZG03p4vXo]YouTube - Shooting The Judge Actual Footage[/ame]




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  4. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    As said, I would pass. When you check the real energy on a 410 , even from a LONG barrel, it is light, The 45 Colt has a LONG jump to get to rifling. IMHO, it is an answer is search of a question. Quality of these has been somewhat indifferent.
     
  5. hunter Joe

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    I think it's the perfect home defense handgun. Less likely to shoot though the wall and kill your neighbor with the .410. This has been the number 1 selling revolver in our shop for the last 2 years or so.

    Check out Winchester's PDX-1 defense ammunition for the .410, awesome IMHO.
     
  6. lonyaeger

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    I had one, hated it, traded it away. Brutal to shoot in .410 and lousy accuracy with the 45LC.
     
  7. CourtJester

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    That's all I would sude it for. Something to slide under the bed or keep in the truck when driving through the Waterloo hood out here. Still on the fence really. I think the 410 would be insane at close range but with the short nose the spread would be quick and the 45 would be worth much at distance.
     
  8. hunter Joe

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    The guys on the indoor range are blowing the centers out of the targets at 7 yards and a few of the fellas are shooting trap with them at the 16 yard line.

    The Judges are sold with barrel lengths in excess of 6 inches and are quite accurate IMHO. The 3 inch mag version is quite the handful but the regular Judge chambered in 2 3/4 isn't all that bad for a normal man, kind of like shooting a .357.
     
  9. Flat Tire

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    I have one and I shoot it a lot. Mainly for the woodpeckers that try to make my buildings a nest, it is way quicker than a shotgun to get on target.
     
  10. kenhesr

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    The Judge is what it is. I like mine and it works fine for what I use it for. Great tractor gun, heck of a lot handier than a rifle or shotgun.

    I wanted something that I could waste small vermin around the farm buildings without worrying about over penetration or backstop and still have the option of taking down a feral dog or cat. Mine is the 2 3/4" chamber w/6" bbl.. Had it over 2 years and it gets a lot of use. Zero problems so far.

    Not the most accurate handgun I own or the best scattergun, but it works. I don't think I'd trust either round with my life, Too many other good choices out there. Short version, there is a lot it won't do well, but it does quite a bit real well. :)

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    PS. Jester, I spent some time in the "hood" you speak of. We wrestled E. High back in the day, even hoisted a few at Buzz's bar, till it Exploded back in "94"! Stay safe, Ken
     
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  11. Missileman

    Missileman New Member

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    Well stated...
     
  12. CourtJester

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    Thanks all. It's sounding like it's not an all around great gun but will fit my needs pretty well. I'll have to check if they have the 3" chamber with the longer barrel.
     
  13. CourtJester

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    I'm going to go pick one up this afternoon.
     
  14. kenhesr

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    Hey Jester, one other thing. My neighbor down the road & I bought ours at the same gun show. We picked up some Cheap 2 3/4" RIO brand .410 shells in several shot sizes.

    They would not fit in the cylinder, the diameter was too big, maybe .060" over, poor quality control at their factory. They worked fine in my .410 shotgun.

    The Judge seems to have a tight bore in the cyl., probably to accommodate the .45 LC cartridge.

    RIO is the only brand I've found this with. Federal, Winchester AA & Remington shot or slugs slip right in. Good luck with the new weapon, Ken
     
  15. CourtJester

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    Damn. Thanks a million Ken. That's some good info to leave the house with.
     
  16. ElvisIsDead

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    I love a revolver of any sort more than most do. The Judge has a purpose and it is great for that purpose. If I lived in the country with snakes, varmets and critters I would own one. I live in a city with punks, gangs and drug addicts. All my guns are used shooting at the range, shooting cans in the woods with my grand children or (and I hope the day never comes) shooting holes in some thug who chooses this old timer as his prey. I don't intend on sending said thug to see a Judge I would shoot to send his gang banging ass to see the undertaker. A Judge isn't for me. Great concept if your lifestyle fits the trails, woods or farm but not a city gun.
     
  17. IGETEVEN

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    I didn't know there was a difference?

    Same damn critters, urban or rural, just different names. ;)
     
  18. CourtJester

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    Picked one up today. It's worked out pretty well. I'm happy with it for sure. I didn't have a lot of time to shoot so I didn't get any 410 shells through it, but I did about 25 rounds of the 45's. It kicks a lot less than I thought and was able to keep about 95% of the shots on an 8.5 x 11" sheet of paper at 15 to 20 yards. I have some 000 buck 410 shells I'll have to try out later next week.


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  19. Gojubrian

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    Do us all a favor and do some ballistic testing with the .410 loads. I want a debate ending review of the .410 as a viable defensive round from a short barrel revolver, please!

    :D

    You could use a 18 stack if newspaper wrapped with ties and soaked overnight in a nice bath. Then put some denim or an old coat in front of it as if were wearing it.

    Do it! It'll be fun, and educational. :cool:
     
  20. CourtJester

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    I could do that. I can get a **** ton of scrap paper from work.