The Glock is either hated or loved. Why no middle ground?

Discussion in 'Glock Forum' started by indyfan, Aug 21, 2010.

  1. indyfan

    indyfan New Member

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    I'm a new Glock owner and I'm beginning to notice that Glock is either hated or loved. There is no in between.

    Ever since I purchased a Glock 19, my friends have been giving so much guff about owning one.

    "Cheaply made."

    "It'll explode."

    "It'll jam if you limp wrist"

    "Law Enforcement only carry it because its so cheap"

    What's the deal with all the hate towards the Glock pistols? It seems like Glock is a huge target for criticism.

    Glock is issued in 43 different countries and thousands of LE agencies in the USA. I don't know squat about Glock handguns but I'm pretty sure thats gotta mean something about quality right?

    Sorry, this was more of a rant. Tired of negative criticism on the glocks. :mad:

    Anyone else gotta deal with this?
     
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  2. freefall

    freefall New Member

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    I don't hate Glocks, I shot one once. It worked fine, was pretty accurate, I just didn't care for the way it felt in my hand. I don't find them particularly attractive, but neither is my .338. It's built to do what it does and it does it well. Lots of people wouldn't care to own it. That's cool, they won't.
     

  3. DarkFreedom

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    I get the same thing

    I own a Hi Point 995 and I get a lot of people saying it's a crap gun because it isn't expensive or because it's made by Hi Point. Don't let them rattle your cage, just enjoy your weapon and don't let the "haters" bring you down.
     
  4. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    I've had Glocks, but they were not comfortable for me to shoot. In poly pistols, I like the Sigma better.
    Does that make the Sigma better overall? For me, yes. But the Glocks have their place.
     
  5. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    I don't like Glocks because I don't like the way they feel in my hands and I can't shoot them for crap. I also don't like the idea that the only safety is on the trigger, I don't see any added security there. I also refuse to buy a firearm from a man who doesn't think the general public should be allowed to own them.

    Having said that, the weapon has proven to function, they can be accurate and reliable. If YOU like the weapon, YOU can shoot with it and YOU feel comfortable with it then shoot it, carry it and defend yourself with it.
     
  6. NGIB

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    Glocks either work for you or they don't. For me, the grip angle and the finger grooves put them in the don't category. What causes the manifestation of "hate" is the Glock fanboy's attitudes towards anyone that doesn't worship at Gaston's altar. The OP's post contains a statement that rankles folks:

    The reason it's in wide use is the fact that Glock sells them CHEAP to police & governments. They do meet the quality and performance standards (as would nearly all pistols) but they win these bids on price. Government purchasing decisions are based on what product meets the specs at the cheapest per unit price - period.

    The really funny part happens when you do some research into the Glock company - they ONLY wanted to sell their guns to governments & police. Gaston Glock really doesn't believe private citizens even deserve to be armed...
     
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  7. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

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    I am in the DON'T LIKE colum myself.

    Fanboys SUCK

    Glocks are built all wrong. They to me are not a natural pointing pistol like say a oh 1911.

    I also will not own a gun I can't reload for. Because of the unsupported chamber you can't reload for the glock without buying a different barrel with a supported chamber.

    I only buy 22lr ammo and SD Ammo. I practice with my handloads.
     
  8. lonyaeger

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    I think the Glock, when it was first introduced, filled a niche for reliable, light, high-capacity, affordable pistols that were easy to maintain, even though the ergonomics really were not very good. Then, because so many LEOs were carrying them, the "cool" factor soared. They were seen a lot on TV and in the movies.

    Now, there are better pistols built on the same premise. The Springfield XD is very similar, but superior in many ways, including grip angle and the safety factor (although it takes real INTENT to fire a Glock by accident).

    I've had a Glock for many years and still have it.....but I have an XD, too, and prefer it. Not to knock your Glock at all. When I had my first one in the early 90's, it was the shizzle! And still is to many people.
     
  9. NGIB

    NGIB New Member

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    Always suspected you were a closet fanboy Lon...:D
     
  10. User Name

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    I have a Glock 19 and love it. It is one of the most reliable pistols out there. I also have a Kimber 1911. The Glock is definalty more reliable and very close in accuracy. The Glock also does not rust (Kimber does). I would say the Glock is one of the best pistols on the market for its price range. I never really cared for the XD. I went to a range and tested all the combat pistols in that price range, the XD is the only one that Jammed (multiple times). I will say I love my 1911 and am very happy with it. It has things that the Glock could never replace. But for what it is, the Glock is a really great pistol. You have a fine weapon.
     
  11. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger New Member

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    uhh...not QUITE a fanboy, but I guess I could say I was at one time. Probably before that term was invented!
     
  12. CA357

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    I used to have a Glock 19. I still think it's a very good pistol. My buddy now owns it and he loves it. I don't know if he's ever even cleaned it and it's shot thousands of rounds.

    Glocks have their place. I prefer steel or alloy.
     
  13. Shihan

    Shihan Active Member Lifetime Supporter

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    What changed your mind?
     
  14. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    i dont hate em. but i think some of the criticism about the quality is justified. they arent the best quality firearms for the price. cheap i think is an accurate description.

    as for why i dont like em:

    1. the ergonomics are terrible.
    2. less safe than carrying a 1911 cocked with the safety off.
    3. safety is located on the trigger
    4. they dont really point naturally for me. they kinda got that wal-mart super-soaker feel.

    hate glocks no. they just dont stack up as a good pistol for me. i think there are a lot of people that dont know why they dont like something other than what they read about on the interweb.
     
  15. M14sRock

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    There are two designs I'm a huge fan of. The 1911, and the Glock.

    Converted from the first, to the second, back in the '80's, kicking and screaming.

    I prefer the 9's. They live up to the rep for durability that the Glock earned early on. The .40's were rushed into production from modified 9's and are under sprung (fixed in the 4th Gen .40's). I prefer the older ones to the new ones.

    I have been a firearms instructor for 25 years or so and the Glock has never failed in one of my classes. Ever. I have 7 or 8 that I loan to students, or let people try in class and have never had one fail.

    My personal 17 is a G2 that has been hammered, abused, neglected and loaned out to too many students to count and has never hiccupped with any ammo.

    I have reloaded for my Glocks from day one with no issues. I have put thousands of rounds of lead bullets through them with no issue (including .40's).

    I have driven over them with trucks, with no issue.

    I have never broken so much as a trigger return spring on one.

    I can detail strip a Glock in seconds, and replace any part part.

    I continue to explain that the trigger safety (Drop safety) on the Glocks is NOT the only safety, but the same people continue to say it is. They are wrong, and refuse to own up to it.

    The only serious use pistols I use anymore are 1911's and Glocks. The Glocks are far more forgiving than the 1911's, far more reliable, and impervious to the elements.

    I have a student who shoots an XD 9mm like a fiend. I enjoy shooting it, too, but not enough to convert. XD is a great pistol.

    The Glock also has the best magazine ever designed for any pistol. Since the magazine is the life blood of any weapon system, that counts for a lot with me.

    The ability to detail strip and repair your firearm of choice is one major requirement for me. Someday there may come a time when warranty repair centers and gunsmiths are non-existent. When that day arrives, you had better be able to keep your guns running or you will be in trouble. Glock parts require no fitting of any kind. They are "drop in and go". I keep spare parts for the Glock inside the hollow cavity behind the magwell. The only parts I've seen break are extractors, trigger return springs, trigger pin, and one firing pin. Those spare parts fit inside the grip and are capped off with a plug. I'm confident that any one of my Glocks can be kept running for eternity with those spares on hand.

    Glocks are the best in that regard. 1911's are runner up.

    None of my Glocks are stock, though. They are all fitted to my hand, with any sharp edges removed, and any places that "rub" being removed too. Factory parts remain, though.

    But all of my pistols have lots of work done. Anything designed for the "general public" needs to be tailored a bit.

    I don't mind when people hate Glocks because Gaston has flaws, or they don't like the feel, etc. But lying about them is dishonest.
     
  16. StanDJ77

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    Hell, as much as those damn 1911's cost, they should feel great in your hand;as well as everything else. Dont get me wrong, maybe one day i will own a 1911 but, for the price of a brand new Glock, please show me a gun thats better:rolleyes: As far as the safety goes, if your scared that the damn thing will go off then, maybe you shouldnt be carrying. I watched a vid on youtube just yesterday titled "glock trigger torture test". This guy took a brand new glock and, tied it to the back of his truck, and drove it through the dirt and it never went off! I dont care what other people say about glock, im sold on them. Now if i had $800-1,300 to blow then yes i would look at H&K,Sigs,or 1911's but for $500 bucks brand new im inpressed. If there was a gun that maybe i consider other than glock, Springfield probably would be it:eek:
     
  17. DarkFreedom

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    Personally, I would prefer a HP C9 over a glock, but that's more because I have my 995TS already and it will just be more fitting to have a "matched set" as it were.
     
  18. billdeserthills

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    SWEET, Hi Point & Glock seem to get along just fine!:D
    To the OP, I will hafta disagree on the love it or hate it deal, as a gun dealer I try not to push Glock onto folks who might run into trouble with one, namely those funny folks who like to pick up a gun with their finger on the trigger. Just seems like poor customer service to sell a Glock to a person with that particular bad habit, Heh Heh...
     
  19. DarkFreedom

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    Yea... I get nervous when I see people do that. He11, I get nervous in front of gun showcases just because they conveniantly point them all out towards the customer... :eek:

    There are people I will not even take to the range because they like to have their finger on the trigger all the time, they can't figure out what the safety is or how to turn it on, and they never check the weapon to see if it is loaded before giving it to someone or picking it up.
    So many just don't understand that with any firearm, they are only as safe when you follow some simple rules and pay attention.
     
  20. billdeserthills

    billdeserthills New Member

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    You are so right DarkFreedom, although now that I sell guns I am less concerned with my own guns which I know were empty at the time I put the tie on, than I am about other folks who wave their guns...