the flu shot is bulls$%t

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by rurak, Nov 21, 2012.

  1. rurak

    rurak New Member

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    So i got the flu shot a week ago and guess what i have????? The FLU ....... dont ever get the flu shot ever.....
     
  2. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    Oh come on. It's a fantastic idea to pay someone to infect you with a virus. Lmfao
    With the way things have been going with the medical industry I would avoid all shots at any cost. Have you not heard about the meningitis outbreak? How about Mercer? I'll go to the hospital if I'm dying only and I sure as hell ain't trusting a pharmacy technician with 40 hours of school under their belt.
     

  3. rurak

    rurak New Member

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    My daughters pediatrician recommended my wife and i get one. We both got it and she never got sick. Ive never had the flu but it is pure misery.
     
  4. rocshaman

    rocshaman New Member

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    I agree with MM, I've never had a flu shot and I never will. Who knows what they put in that crap.
     
  5. fmj

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    Its not the shots fault but your own. You have to get the shot early on and allow the immunity to build up in your system. 7 days obviously wasnt enough time for your system to build the immunity.
     
  6. Sonic82

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    I used to get the flu every year...and when I get it..I'm down for a week. Since I've gotten the shot( about 7 yrs.now) I haven't had the flu....except two years ago I had that serious swine flu going around. But the flu shot wasn't about the Swine Flu...so I don't blame it.
     
  7. Overkill0084

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    I stopped getting Flu shots after I retired from the USAF. Haven't had the Flu since. I can't speak for the rest of the populace, but whenever I got the Flu shot I was sick as hell within 48 hours. But according to the doctors, " The Flu Shot can't cause the flu!" Yeah, whatever pal. I get the shot & get sick within a day or two, every time. But it's "completely unrelated." 20+ years of coincidence.
     
  8. trip286

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    There's been tons of debate on whether or not the flu shot can cause the flu. Sick people say yes, and the people selling the vaccines say no. Who you gonna believe?

    I get the flu every few years. But I haven't gotten it since I quit taking the vaccine.

    I survived swine flu and the ensuing pneumonia. With no help beyond OTC cold and flu medicine. And didn't miss but a couple days of work while the fever was raging.

    Flu? Come at me bro.
     
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  9. rhyno13

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    I have been getting the flu shot for 10 years now and have not been sick from the flu during that time. Seems to have worked for me.
     
  10. JonM

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    I work in the medical arena. The number one way to not get the flu is to wash your hands frequently, do not use bare hands to open bathroom doors, do not use air driers to dry your hands dont touch common areas in fast food joints like ketchup dispensers swinging lids on garbage cans etc. Carry a small bottle of sanitizer so if you must scratch a face itch sanitize first.

    Flu is commonly transmitted by contact. Touch something an infected person touches and then rub nise or eyes and you got the bug. Refrain from eating fastfood or in restraunts during flu season people who know they are sick often hide it so they dont get sent home.

    Movie theaters and other areas with close packed people are another way to avoid it by avoiding malls and such places where you come into close contact with others.

    The flu shot doesnt give you the flu but after getting it you have a 2 week window where your immune system is weaker as it it is fending off the vaccine. So your more likely to contract an illness after getting the shot. I like to time my flu shot with a weekend to give me time over a few days where im not exposed to the public
     
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  11. rurak

    rurak New Member

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    I guess its different for everyone. I just hope my little girl doesnt get it. I went to work yesterday and felt ok but when i came home i showered and laid on the couch and got worse and worse. I have no stomach symptoms but i have a nasty headache, fever/chills, cough and aching joints. I would rather be working ....... i better not miss turkey day
     
  12. JonM

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    One other thing it takes about three weeks for flu symptoms to show up post infection. You typically become infectious to others 2 weeks after infection and 1 week before symptoms manifest. Times vary depending on strain involved. Transmital to others lasts until fever breaks.
     
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  13. trip286

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    And the reason many people get sick, I believe, is because it would be simpler and easier to just stay home and wear surgical gloves and a mask.

    I open bathroom doors with my bare hands. I only wash my hands in three circumstances, if I use the bathroom (1 or 2, even though I know where that's been), when I get something really nasty on them (I occasionally come in contact with raw sewage), or when I eat.

    I use air driers only if there ate no prepper towels available, and only until my hands aren't just dripping wet.

    I don't touch the garbage can lids only because there's usually a ketchup gunk built up on them.

    I will not hide from the public because of transferable disease. If I wanna see a movie, I see a movie. If I need groceries, I'm going shopping. BUT, because I don't like crowds, I do plan these activities outside of the peak times for such things. For instance, I try to see a movie around mid day, and try to do my shopping in between checks instead of on the common paydays/offdays, I avoid Wednesdays, Fridays, and Saturdays.

    I have never bought hand sanitizer, and I've never used it until recently when coming in contact with raw sewage.
     
  14. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    That's why is so contagious. People spread it without even knowing they have it.
     
  15. primer1

    primer1 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Got the shot two years in a row, got the flu both those years. I've had a touch of the flu since then, but nothing serious. Maybe coincidence, but I think not.

    Has anyone noticed that the flu often breaks out several weeks after the shots are distributed? I didn't see it this year as much, but the last several years make it more of a coincidence, imho.
     
  16. Vincine

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    You can’t get the flu from a flu shot any more than you can drive a pile of rusted automobile parts from a junk yard. The virus is that busted up. If it’s even the virus in the first place. The vaccine could very well be an ‘imitation’ virus. Think ‘Grape’ flavored drink. It looks purple, it tastes sweet, but it’s high fructose corn syrup and isn’t anything like of 100% Grape Juice.

    The reason many feel ill for a day or two right after a flu shot is because the immune system is ramping up. You’re fatigued because you’re using calories to make lots of antibodies, fast. You may have a fever because the body is raising its metabolism to try burn up what it thinks is a ‘virus’. That takes energy too. The body doesn't know it’s a shell game.

    If you have the flu, the real flu, you’ll be sick for a week or more, with some really bad days, You’ll likely be vomiting and/or have the runs for at least part of that time. If it goes on you may become dehydrated and lose rationality because of electrolyte imbalance. Not an easy thing to fix if you can’t hold anything down. Bacterial (as distinct from viral) bronchitis, and other respiratory infections, like pneumonia, have an opportunity to inhabit and multiply in your lungs, requiring antibiotics and then you’ll have their side effects.

    As was mentioned above, it takes a couple of weeks for a virus to invade a sufficient number of the body’s cells and commander their RNA before symptoms manifest. If you feel ill soon after a flu shot, it’s either what I described above, or you were infected about three weeks ago.
     
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  17. MOshooter

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    I haven't ever had a Flu shot,the people I know that Do get the shots always complain about getting sick?
     
  18. partdeux

    partdeux Well-Known Member

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    too many problems with Flu shots
     
  19. rurak

    rurak New Member

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    Well im home sick still ..... i have to miss thanksgiving...... dammit :(
     
  20. Gatoragn

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    Bummer, get well soon.