The Feral (wild) Hog/Pig~~~

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  1. teaberryeagle

    teaberryeagle New Member

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    The Feral (wild) Hog/Pig~~~

    I've been enjoying these videos from YouTube.com and thought I would pass a few along to see if anyone has any comments they would like to share and to make you aware of this problem that seems to be getting greater...:D

    Bell County Hog Hunt Highlights HD
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au685yfjyNk"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au685yfjyNk[/ame]

    Heli Hog Hunt 2013 Knox City, TX
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvvIPmHXpbc"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvvIPmHXpbc[/ame]

    AR-15 rifles to protect crops from hogs
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANKgTjUD69U"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANKgTjUD69U[/ame]

    Hog Hunting Jager Pro Style - The Management Advantage #33
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQxmyTfbV1o"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQxmyTfbV1o[/ame]


    JAGER PRO™- Four Legged Enemy (Part 1)
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75scNUzmuvg"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75scNUzmuvg[/ame]
    JAGER PRO™- Four Legged Enemy (Part 2)
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owVRdNeHpfs"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owVRdNeHpfs[/ame]

    JAGER PRO™ Hog Trapping (17)- 26 Hogs Captured before June Planting:
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85uvN5ZwvYM"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85uvN5ZwvYM[/ame]
     
  2. Sniper03

    Sniper03 Supporting Member Supporter

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    Teaberry,

    It is no exaggeration at all! They are unbelievable regarding reproduction. A Hog can have the first litter in the first year of life. Not just one piglet but 8-12 at a time. They can have at least two liters per year after that. You figure the math. Where I hunt in Texas they literally eliminated the ranchers doing the peanut business. They would come into a field and go row by row eating all the peanut seeds and peanuts. They now raise cotton in the area since the D*** Hogs do not eat cotton! We shoot many of them each year and do not seem to be eliminating the problem. The son in law of a friend of mine owns three ranches. They shot almost 300 of them from a Helicopter as in the video in one three day weekend on the Ranches. That is how many of them they are. And by now the population is no doubt recuperated and going strong. Once again DO THE MATH!
    An AR-15 in 223/5.56 is the preferred weapon. Although I also like the 6.5 Grendel and the 458 SOCOM. Here is a picture of the SOCOM I use. We also do some night hunting with the NV for Hogs and Coyotes.

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  3. teaberryeagle

    teaberryeagle New Member

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    Thanks, Sniper03, for your response and information....maybe more hunters/trappers will
    be aware of this problem which seems to be overtaking all states where there use to be
    only a few that were experiencing this problem...

    Here are videos of predominately TEXAS hog/pig problems and hunts and trapping...
    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=+hunting+pigs+in+texas&sm=3

    SAMPLES:
    Hogs Wild - Fighting the Feral Pig Problem - Texas Parks and Wildlife [Official]
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GigpxLNbgeg"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GigpxLNbgeg[/ame]

    Wild Hogs Impacting Texas Agriculture - America's Heartland
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3KSMSrJQGk"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3KSMSrJQGk[/ame]

    Helicopter Hog and Coyote Eradication Hunt with Cedar Ridge Aviation
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS06ARiuEs8"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS06ARiuEs8[/ame]

    Hunting Texas Feral Hogs at Fence Line Crossings! Big Cutters! .223 @ 150 Yards
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp-hR0rANhI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp-hR0rANhI[/ame]
     
  4. hairbear1

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    Jeeez how many pigs do you want? In Australia it's estimated that there's at least 1 pig person so that's at least 23 million pigs estimated.

    So if you boys want a few more to shoot we can lend you some on a non return basis :D

    Here they get poisoned, shot, trapped,dogged etc but it just seems to make room for the others.

    Must admit I luuuuurrrvvvee busting pigs with my 30/06AI,.30/30,.270 or .303 best fun you can have with your clothes on.
     
  5. teaberryeagle

    teaberryeagle New Member

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    Thanks for your kind response......and, if folks
    don't believe you have the same problem in
    Australia as we do in the USA, then watch a
    few of these videos...very interesting....:D


    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pig+hunting+in+australia&sm=3

    SAMPLE:

    ULTIMATE! boar hunting australia
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNWNcRBtw_w"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNWNcRBtw_w[/ame]

    Feral Pigs in Australia
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRNjVwhovlY"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRNjVwhovlY[/ame]

    Hunting wild rabbits and Feral pigs Australia. Go Pro
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPS4I0n4fss"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPS4I0n4fss[/ame]
     
  6. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    feral hogs are huge problem in Texas and the hog populations have exploded to huge numbers and seem to be growing every year. i think this is a problem in most southern states and not just Texas though.

    they tend to reproduce quickly and in large numbers. hogs are very versatile creatures and able to survive on just about anything. they are also very disease tolerant as well.
     
  7. JimRau

    JimRau Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Three litters in 14 months! Usually 8+, and the sows in the first litter will have their first litter before their mother has her third litter!!!:eek: Most of the biologists I have talked to consider the litters to be 50-50 male to female, BUT of the litters we have taken it was more like 2 female to every male!:(
    They are rapidly becoming a BIG problem where ever they are. Their only 'predator' is man. Remember:::
    THE ONLY GOOD HOG IS A DEAD HOG!!!!;)
    AND they are very good eating!!!!:cool:
     
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  8. AlotOfPayne

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    That's awesome I am from the Knox city area my family is from Haskell,Tx and my uncle and aunt live in Knox city and I think the guy who runs the helicopter hog business is a guy my brother in law hunts with I'm all for killing them I love firearms but I'm a bow hunter at heart I've killed 5 this year during deer season and there is still plenty of pigs in my area ImageUploadedByFirearms Talk1389026859.600069.jpg
     
  9. alsaqr

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    Can have and do have are very different. Very few wild sows have more than one litter of pigs per year. Problem comes when the wildlife gurus take facts from hog farms and apply those facts to the wild hog population. A sow that raises four pigs to 40 pounds in the wild is a fine mother. Predators kill many pigs, some die of starvation and disease. A hog in the wild often has a very rough time of it.

    Last year my hog hunting partners and i shot and trapped over 200 wild hogs in SW OK and northern TX. Almost all those hogs were field dressed and given to folks who needed the meat, quite a few were also skinned. Most of the mature sows we trapped last year did not have litters and were not pregnant. We trapped a few dozen 2-4 year old sows that had never borne a litter. One of the properties we hunt and trap had a bumper crop of acorns and pecans in 2012 and again last year. Many mature sows are running around sans litters of pigs.

    i have spent thousands of hours observing, hunting and trapping wild hogs. Most wildlife biologists have never personally studied hogs in the wild. They simply pass on bad information.

    i would have never believed hogs would eat mature cotton bolls until i saw it for the first time. The hogs here prefer mature cotton bolls over green wheat and corn. Cottonseed is very high in protein, much higher than corn. Makes for some funny looking hog poop.
     
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  10. alsaqr

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    Free ranging domestic hogs and wild hogs often build nests. Some are communal nests, others are built by sows prior to birthing.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzjfuE4rwSc[/ame]
     
  11. JimRau

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    The smallest litter I have seen in the wild here is 5. The largest was 9+. They have a plenty to eat here and no natural predators. They live in the Sipsey Wilderness (Bankhead National Forrest) and this is part of the Black Warrior Game Management area where hunting with a 'deer' caliber rifle is VERY restricted so they are very secure and prolific. :(
    We, a retired game warden and I, have a permit to trap and hunt (at night and over bait) them on his property next to the Wilderness and we have killed 40+ in the last few years. They are hard to get to come out of their natural habitat as they have plenty to eat and are very secure there. Usually in late winter and early spring we have the best luck getting them to come to bait as their food sources are more limited then.
     
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  12. AlotOfPayne

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    I agree with alsaqr I haven't studied pigs but just from hunting them I can't tell you how many times they are bred and birth a litter but I have only seen a new litter of pigs on my current property once this year I have photos off my game camera I don't know how many sows were bred but I do know there were around 15 piglets around march April since then I haven't seen any new litters but they still produce a lot of pigs each year due to carrying 5 or more also they have a wide home range due to always moving around so maybe they had more then one here is 2 pregnant sows that I gave away to a guy who needed meat ImageUploadedByFirearms Talk1389035755.542756.jpg
     
  13. AlotOfPayne

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    Those pigs had 5 baby's in them and were completely developed and were about to give birth any day here is what was in them the guy sent me the picture after cut them open ImageUploadedByFirearms Talk1389035906.508930.jpg
     
  14. AlotOfPayne

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    Is that too graphic for this forum lol don't wanna offend any liberals I mean people on here
     
  15. fragout

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    A good hog is a dead hog IMO. ( Not to offend pig farmers, but if they end up on my land, then they will be shot,period)

    I'll be retiring soon, so the war on hogs will be a more full time war at that point.....lol ( One more combat deployment to go, then I'm droppin my packet when I get back)

    My preferred cartridge for dumpin hogs is 7.62x51mm via my M14S. (Day and night).......but have recently bought a Ruger SR762)

    As long as everyone shooting hogs in TX place safety first, and have permission from the landowner (if hunting on...or over private lands)...... then I say go for it.
     
  16. hairbear1

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    Breeding rates for feral pigs here is subject to conditions like drought and food availability much like our native animals. At the moment there's plenty of pigs around because of at least 2 good Winters and plenty of feed around so they've bred up big time.
    From memory with feral pigs their survival rate after birth is something like 50% or less but they breed so quickly that the loss is soon covered by the next generation.

    Biggest mob of pigs with slips I saw was a few years ago up in the Northern Territory when we shooting over baits and a mob of at least 30+ came in and probably a quarter of them were young piglets about a month or 2 old.
     
  17. John_Deer

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    The problem in TX is self created. One farmer is trying to kill hogs. The next farmer is feeding them so he charge $200 a day to hunt hogs. Landowners need to make up their mind, do we want to raise hogs for hunting or are we going to farm? I can tell you a large peanut farm makes over $200 a day, not to mention the property damage done by hogs.

    NC is one of the largest hog producing states in the country. We have better habitat for hogs. Plus we have hog farms shutting down all the time. You know a few hogs get left behind every time a farm shuts down. We don't have anywhere near the hog problem they have in TX. But no one in NC is running a pay to shoot a hog farm.
     
  18. JimRau

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    There is life after retirement, but you have to WORK at it!!!:D
    I am considering the SR-762, how do you like it? Any short comings with it?
     
  19. AlotOfPayne

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    In my area I don't think it's self created and to be totally honest I haven't heard of any complaints from any farmer that's just in my area I here hey they been in the wheat field but nothing like we got to stop this there doing to much damage I do know if gives me stuff to shoot at year round lol by the way I'm not saying your wrong John deer I'm sure in other areas here in Texas your right but here we love shooting and eating them I wouldn't say there totally out of control just that there is a lot to shoot at if that makes sense
     
  20. fragout

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    I put the "work" into retirement since my first day in the Army brother.:)
    Cant wait, as I'm an aspiring future wannabe civilian....lol

    So far, the SR762 has proven to be a decent rifle. (Already shot a few hogs with it.)

    All 3 mags that sold with it feed it well, and the dual stage adjustable piston drive gas system is extremely easy to keep clean. (I'll never mess with DGI again...lol)

    Other than my Raptor NVS, I haven't bothered to add an optic yet. (Too much fun using the rifle's Samson iron sights.)

    Of all the 7.62x51mm semiautomatic rifles I have owned and shot over the years.......this one has very little felt recoil, even though it sells with a flash hider on it.

    It should make for a good host when I get around to utilizing a can.

    This rifle is a well balanced stick overall, and "feels" better in hand, as compared to their SR556.

    I'm not a big fan of rails everywhere on a rifle, so this one has them where I want them, but not where I don't need them to be...... ( The 2 sections of rail and the grips that sold with it are still in the wrap, and will most lkely stay there....... as really like the "lean and clean" feel of the handguard as it is.)

    The things I aint all that fond of......
    1. Ruger could have put together a better trigger. Mine has a gritty feel to it, even though it is starting to smooth out after use.

    2. An ambi safety switch would have been nice.

    3. The flash hider is about useless compared to other flash hiders, and seems that it's only real purpose is to protect the threaded muzzle and crown.

    4. It's black. Not fond of black rifles, but cant blame Ruger here, as that's what sells concerning rifles like the SR. (At least it aint pink.....lol)

    5. It should have come with a sling. ( I consider a sling to be a component of a rifle). The stock seems to be an exact replica of the type that is utilized on our issued M4's. It sports a sling swivel there, but not a front sling swivel.

    My "not so goods" are all personal preference, and all are relatively easy to remedy.

    The SR762 has a lot of potential for a anti hog rifle, and especially for folks who like AR types.

    Feral pigs technically was a human created issue, but me and my clan enjoy hunting them, and eating some of them. (Youngins are tasty)
    Fun for the whole family.

    (I would add some hog pics, but having problems loading them here right now.)
     
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