The evil that is .338 Lapua (and other "sniper" calibres)

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  1. zhuk

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    SA Police Looking To Restrict PTA Approvals for “Large Calibres”




    The SA Police Firearms Registry are looking to ensure that owners or applicants wanting to get these “Large Calibres” have a genuine reason to own that type of specific cartridge.

    The list of cartridges that are being closely looked at are:

    50 BMG
    460 Steyr
    408 Cheytac
    375 Cheytac
    416 Barrett
    338 Lapua Magnum

    Whilst these cartridges aren’t banned the Officer in Charge of the Firearms Branch SA Chief Inspector Langmead told the SSAA that now anyone wanting to keep one or apply for a Permit to Acquire would have to justify it proving that they have a “Genuine need/Reason” for owning firearms of those calibres.It seems that only the cartridges above are under fire and its not calibre specific but rather the “scary” cartridges you see above.

    Once again this decision is based on paranoia and hyperbole rather than any solid evidence. Whilst this has always been the right of the Firearms Branch in SA to do this it seems odd that they would make this decision when there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that these cartridges in the hands of law abiding citizens are any more dangerous than a 22lr.

    It has been rumoured that the so called “Technical Expert” advising The SA Police is a member of the SSAA, is on a personal crusade to put a stop to these military cartridges and is apart of the SSAA hunting and conservation group. It is also rumoured that said “technical expert” owns a 338 Winchester. It is a bit scary when we have people in our own ranks trying to restrict law abiding citizens from own certain cartridges whilst they feel it is perfectly acceptable to own something close to the 338 Lap Mag.

    Does this really surprise anyone? Considering the SA Governments attempts at keeping this country behind the times with other controversial rulings such as not agreeing to an R Rating on video games and making it illegal to comment on the election online unless you put your full name along with your comment. It’s hardly democratic and makes me glad I’m not in SA.


    NSW is somewhat protected from these sorts of silly decisions at the moment due to the fact that you only elect a firearms category as opposed to a cartridge when applying for a PTA. This may change though as I think that SA is probably the first in a long line of states to try and implement such silly rules.

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    All they have to do is make noises about "sniper rounds" and that's what it takes for hysteria levels to rise exponentially...OMG! civilians with "sniper" weapons! Someone think of the children! etc etc


    In SA, those who were lawfully in possession of larger calibre firearms were suddenly informed that these were no longer "legal" and these were summarily seized. Without compensation (and you might imagine how much some of these could have been worth)


    Good posting from shooting.com.au:

    Banning Of Certain Chamberings In Aus - Shooting.com.au


    and Shooters Party forum


    I maintain that freedom is not determined by need.

    :rolleyes:
     
  2. zhuk

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    Bump>Looks like this 'disease' is covertly creeping into my State now...

    From the NSW Shooters Party forum:



    how legal is it?


    Maybe they're looking to ban .338 nationwide? It seems to be going in that direction :rolleyes:
     

  3. AusLach

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    Great, just freakin great... The stupidity, it's spreading like a disease!!
     
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    EDIT: You know what, I have thought better about that information being in the open....

    That sucks guys. Do you have elections that can get some people in power that think clearly about these issues? Or what is the recourse?
     
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    We have elections early next year, but I'm not sure if things will improve or not..

    PM inbound.
     
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    Guys, I'm sorry your country is sucking the liberal teet. The USA isn't far behind....which scares me. Those of us who can fight are. Hang in there. You are always welcome here.
     
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    And guess what I read in the paper yesterday? The creaking, rotten edifice that is our Labor State Govt has now decided to hang the Shooters Party out to dry, and renege on an agreement to put a freeze on marine parks - you know, the greenies plan to stop people fishing those poor lil 'sea kittens'?

    Labor might get shot down in flames in March's election as they so richly deserve, but as Roy Smith always said, you can't hope the Conservatives will be much better - they've moved a long way from their National-Coalition rural roots these days...and once the election is over are most likely to shaft us well & good in any case.


    Refusal to limit marine parks final straw for Shooters



    Keneally's refusal to limit marine parks final straw for Shooters


    So, Greens with the balance of power both Federally & State? Bloody wonderful!

    And they call us the "lunatic fringe" lol
     
  8. AusLach

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    I read that this morning when I was trying to find some info for JD.. Far out things make me mad lately!!

    I seached the Lib's state website and couldn't find a thing that alluded to any affiliation to the Shooter's Party, but hopefully the LNP will decide they need our help to gain the majority and soften some of their policies. To be honest I'm not expecting much though....
     
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    You & me both, it's not hard to get riled up before breakfast these days, is it?


    Funny you should mention the Libs site - there was a very lively and extended discussion which was being conducted on their "Our Ideas" page, including quite a few Shooters Party forum members on the common sense of law-abiding citizens and concealed carry. The vast majority of respondents arguing in the positive, the forum rules state that over a certain no. of posts supposedly guarantees a response from the Libs (the people's democracy-in-action type crap). Well you guessed it - that number was way surpassed but get this! they had an "administrative glitch" which meant that no replies could be forthcoming!

    All I could dredge up was this brief grab from another site. Gives you an idea of the numbers though:

    Click on the Lib link sourced from the Shooters' archive...and it just loads forever (and I don't think its my rubbish connection speed either lol)

    Our ideas - Liberal Party of Australia

    &

    Our ideas - Liberal Party of Australia


    SFP thread archive

    Two Firearms related topics


    So, the election's over...whole convo killed off. I haven't much hope from these bastards either, truthfully :rolleyes:
     
  10. AusLach

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    Yeah it's not your internet, she's been shut down lol.. Now I just really don't know who the SFP is going to side with; either way it's only the lesser of two evils.. :(

    The only problem is figuring out who's less evil!! :eek: