The Cold War stuff.

Discussion in 'History' started by Rex in OTZ, Dec 12, 2016.

  1. W.T. Sherman

    W.T. Sherman Well-Known Member

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    silos are always manned by Armed airmen, maintenance men wouldn't be armed.

    there was serious accident that happen in Arkansas 40 years ago, when a maintenance man dropped a socket from near the top of a TITAN II, went through the grate, hit the floor and bounced up and put a hole in the side of the missile, which caused thousand of pounds of rocket fuel to leak out, the result...………...BOOM!!!!!

    luckily the warhead didn't explore, otherwise that part of Arkansas would be vaporized with thousands kill and hundreds of miles from the site would be inhabitable for decades and decade and decades.

    here is a short clip about that, PBS AMERCIAN EXPERIENCE did a great documentary about it, title COMMAND AND CONTROL, worth watching




     
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  2. ellis36

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    Hey, Sherman!

    Here's an Opinion piece just for you. :)

    ellis

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blo..._william_t_sherman_on_his_200th_birthday.html

    FTA:"...
    Sherman's a character who deserves some intensive study, given his intriguing human dimensions and because he's so different from the kind of people we see today. But he's not. He's too complicated for an age of wokeness and identity politics. Yet the very truth of his intense existence exposes the left for all its jejeune ideas. America, though, is poorer for not remembering...."
     
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  3. Mercator

    Mercator Well-Known Member

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    Da what?

    Let’s talk when you’re sober :D
     
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  4. alsaqr

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    In the mid 1960s i was stationed at Fort MacArthur, CA. Our EOD unit provided emergency support to Nike Hercules sites in the Los Angeles area. Some missiles at those sites carried conventional high explosive warheads, other nuclear warheads.

    The Nike Hercules carried the W-31 nuclear warhead. Yields of the W-31 warheads were 2,10, 20 and 30 kilotons. The Nike Hercules could carry one of three different yields. Yep, a 20 kiloton blast over LA would have shaken things up.

    It was easy to extinguish nuclear armed missiles from conventional. The nuclear armed missiles had a two foot long baro probe.

    While stationed in Korea in 1963 my unit responded to the accidental firing of a conventional Nike Hercules missile. Lightning struck the missile igniting one of the four booster motors. The missile landed on a sandbar in the river, stuck there like a huge dart.

    The Titan missile carried the W-53 warhead, nine megatons.
     
  5. primer1

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    Good Lord that had to be a sight to see. So scary and almost funny at the same time.
     
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  6. W.T. Sherman

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    man, if I saw a missile go off the launcher by itself, my skives wouldn't be dry or clean...………...I bet everyone's else who saw that their under ware wouldn't be dry or clean either:D

    also in 1983, when I was in Germany they fielded the PERSING II , mobile launched ground to ground nuclear missiles. the Germans heavily protesting their deployment. staging protest outside the PERSHING unit barracks where the unit couldn't even leave on a field exercise, and were basically were confined to the post. as well as protesting in most of the cities. I walked up on one in the market square when I went to Nuremberg, made a quick rear-march and left :D

    they were some exciting times back then, protests, ABLE ARCHER, and a attack by terrorist firing a RPG at USAREUR Commander Gen.Kroesen :D.
     
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  7. Mercator

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    And then they didn’t mind when the wall came down. Now there’s more room to protest American barbarism.
     
  8. alsaqr

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    The predecessor to the Nike Hercules was the Nike Ajax, a slim conventional missile. Some former Nike Ajax launch sites were modified to accommodate the Nike Hercules. There was very little room to work in those pits.

    Early on folks discovered there were nuclear armed missiles in/near their cities. Some were concerned, others paralyzed with fear. In order to assure folks that the nuclear armed missiles were safe; the military built a Nike Hercules site in the desert and blew the thing up, filming all the while. Well, there was a significant nuclear contribution. As a result the US Army classified the movie.

    Periodically the US Army, civilian law enforcement and fire fighters participated in an emergency drill called a NAICP (Nuclear Accident/Incident Control Plan. The Fort Macarthur staff lead the exercise and our EOD unit participated. The LA fire chief was never comfortable with the concept of fighting fires involving nuclear armed missiles. At one exercise he flatly told the "beloved " major of our EOD headquarters detachment his fire fighters would not fight those fires.

    Yep, the Pershing II missiles in Germany scared the little red panties off the Russians. Ditto for the GLCMs.
     
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  9. bluez

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    The left now hates the russians because they are no longer Communists.
    They dared to free themselves from that "wonderful" system , making leftists everywhere look foolish for clinging to this failed ideology.

    And now they even dare to teach russian children family values! Girls are raised wanting to be women! And no LGBT propaganda allowed in schools either! How terrible!
     
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  10. bluez

    bluez Well-Known Member

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    We had France help us out before against a tyranny.. If/when the left owns all houses of Gov't and commits the predictable atrocities we should take help from any quarter against the lethal threat the american left is..
    Even the FBI now parrots the lefts disingenuous talking points intended to divert Americans from the real threat (the left)
     
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  11. Mercator

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    And no late term abortion.

    But no free elections either; a police state; propping up Cuba and Venezuela and Iran; and hacking our institutions second only to China. It’s complicated. What is clear by now is that not every enemy of Hillary is necessarily a friend. Unfortunately. It is probably true that the socialist left feel betrayed by the Russians.