the 44mag

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  1. BOBCAT62

    BOBCAT62 New Member

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    hello am new to the forum. can any one tell me if a 44mag with a 4 inch barrel kill a black bear. why i ask is i think my wife is getting me one for xmcit's the taurus ultralite.
     
  2. hillbilly68

    hillbilly68 New Member

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    Will it? Yes. Should you as a primary weapon. No. Especially in a 4 inch bbl. Too iffy IMO.
     

  3. JiroZero713

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    If you are buying a gun to protect yourselves from wild bears then buy the gun that was SPECIFICALLY designed for that.

    the S&W Model 500 Revolver


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    This is like Bear Attacking...OH **** OH **** kind of gun....If I was hiking in bear country I'd be carrying it.
     
  4. falseharmonix

    falseharmonix New Member

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    my bro has one of these. I've fired it once....

    emphasis on once....

    kicks like a freaking mule, but I have full confidence it would put any creature living in North America right on its @$$....
     
  5. JiroZero713

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    Hell yeah...I mean...jesus...it's probably the only gun in existance right now that could kill a replicant.
     
  6. stalkingbear

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    .44 mag

    To begin with,a hot loaded hardcast bullet fired from a .44 mag is plenty for close range backup pertaining to anything in north america. Even close range hunting is possible with a short barreled .44 mag AS LONG AS HE STAYS WITHIN his personal reasonable distance determined by skill. Just look back at what the father of the .44mag,elmer keith,did with it,while remembering that none of us will ever acchive his level of shooting skill. For someone just starting out in magnum handguns,the .44 is plenty. The .500 S&W,while being totally controllable and fun to shoot(mine don't seem to kick nowhere near that bad),is just too much for the beginner in magnum handguns. Also look at the cost difference between the 2-both in initial purchase price,but also in ammo/loading componets.
     
  7. Mark F

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    Speaking from experience (not opinion) a 44 Magnum can be very effective. If it's loaded with Buffalo Bore 305 grain flat nose ammo, there is absolutely no North American Game it won't drop. Including Grizzly & Black bears. I pistol hunt every year with a 44 Magnum and I RARELY need to fire twice to drop my game. For emergency self defence multiple shots will likely be necessary.

    Now understand that not ALL 44 Mags can load and shoot 305+ grain ammo. And I'm doubting the Taurus Ultralite can handle them. However, Taurus Raging Bull 44 Mag can. I might note here that a light weight 44 Magnum revolver with maximum power loads will recoil beyond your wildest imagination. I would HIGHLY RECOMMEND a Ruger ALASKAN 44 Magnum as a super effective hiking and back packing pistol.

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    Here is a REVIEW: http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-Redhawk4.htm
     
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  8. mdw104

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    When I go camping or hiking in the mountains of NC, GA or TN, I carry a 6" SS Ruger GP100, .357 Mag, with Federal hard cast lead, Vital Shock .357 ammo. That would be plenty for black bear. IMHO. A .44 Mag will still work very good though.:D
     
  9. Mark F

    Mark F New Member Supporter

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    There is certainly nothing wrong with a .357 Magnum. I keep a Colt King Cobra .357 handy, and I am comfortable with it. It doesn't quite have the TKO of a 44 Mag. but I would feel safe with it...
     
  10. JiroZero713

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    But can it kill replicants like in Blade Runner?
     
  11. Mark F

    Mark F New Member Supporter

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    Dunno, probably not. But then you're in play mode, and I'm in lurking he real world.
     
  12. BOBCAT62

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    ulartlite

    thinks every one for the info. what would be a good grain to shoot for outdoors hikeing and stuff.
     
  13. stalkingbear

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    If you're concerned about recoil, go with mild 180 gr but personally I use the good ol 240 gr-IMO the best allround weight. Back when I was shooting sillouete, I used 300 gr to knock the targets over but they will really let you know when you touch them off.
     
  14. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    240 gr or heavier soft points or hard cast bullets. For tough, thick skinned animals like bears you do not want expansion, you want deep penetration. If you have a Ruger, use 300 grainers. Rugers have a longer cylinder than other makers allowing 300 gr bullets to be loaded with sufficient oomph to work. 240's for all others.
     
  15. Mark F

    Mark F New Member Supporter

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    I can confirm this with my Ruger 44 Mag Super Blackhawk Bisley. I shoot 305 grain hard cast wad cutters in it. It will handle up to about 320 grain before the bullet extends out the cylinder.
     
  16. freefall

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    I carry a Ruger Bisley 44 mag cut to 5" in the Alaskan bush. Never had to defend myself with it, confident it will work.
     
  17. Mark F

    Mark F New Member Supporter

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    It will, do doubt.
     
  18. MANOFSTEEL

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    Hey all, new here!

    I've been lurking around for a while and this post got me. I'm pretty new to firearms, still learning a lot. I have been looking for the right first gun for me. But aside from that, I was taking a trip to the future and thinking about something big and bad I could get my hands on. Well, I came across this. What is your opinion?

    DesertEaglePro.com: Magnum Research Desert Eagle Mark XIX Pistol, DE50MC, M
     
  19. Mark F

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    It's not my first choice...

    For that kind of money there are LOTS of excellent pistols to choose from. Leave the Desert Eagles to the movies...
     
  20. leglesscrow

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    Smith and Wesson actually has a model 500 that has a muzzle break at the end of the barrel and Ive been told that the recoil on that model is similar to a semi-auto .357!
    But props for firing that a plane jane revolver type FA SHO!
     
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