The .22 is the new .380

Discussion in 'Semi-Auto Handguns' started by DodgerBlue, Apr 7, 2012.

  1. DodgerBlue

    DodgerBlue New Member

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    When obama became the apologists in chief, .380 was making grown wet their pants with lust!

    .380 ammo just couldn't be found or bought.

    Now everything is .22 this .22 that. 1911 .22, pocket .22, AR-15 .22, police duty weapon .22, and it seems to have worked. People are losing their minds over .22s

    I know the built in excuses. cheap plinking, good starter gun, ect.

    But it's more than that. The tacticoolmarket is really getting a head of steam and people are eating it up.

    So I guess the point of this thread is to see why? Does anybody carry a .22 for EDC? Night stand gun a .22? Truck gun a .22? I think Springfield says it best.[​IMG]
     
  2. vincent

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    I'd never rely on a .22 for SD, unless it was all I had. I think the .22 has been popular for way too long for it to be considered a fad and has got to be aguably one of the most versatile calibers ever made.

    http://www.henryrepeating.com/rifle-survival-ar7.cfm

    I've been looking at this for a truck/woods/get home gun...

    I never understood the .380 craze myself, I can see why people like it but it's just not for me...just my .02...:cool:
     

  3. therewolf

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    I think one thing many folks miss completely is

    the .22LR has very respectable penetration,

    given it's diameter.

    Not serious stopping power, per se. Not

    only deadly, and very concealable, but more

    accurate, as well.

    Face it, you get shot CBM, you're going to the hospital, if you

    want to live. And a disproportionately high amount of people

    don't survive .22 wounds, compared to other calibers...

    I guess I got in on this ".22 craze" early. I have four, and they are

    my favorite guns.

    I never was a fan of the .380, I was afraid I'd get my ammo mixed

    with my 9mm.
     
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  4. TimL2952

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    I think the only practical gun would be the Kel-Tec PMR 30....holds 30 rounds of .22 magnum in the standard magazine and weights less than a pound fully loaded.

    [​IMG]
     
  5. CHLChris

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    .22 magum is a different beast. It really isn't part of this discussion. The PMR-30 is really without peer and created its own category.

    Yes, more people die from .22's (So I have heard...), but that doesn't in any way speak to stopping the fight in someone. A BG might later die from getting shot by someone defending their life with a .22, but I doubt that BG was stopped in his tracks by hypovolemic shock after being shot.

    I also think that the bug craze of .22 guns is more about having fun at the range with the same sorts of guns you may have for protection in real calibers. People are just wanting to have more cheap fun.
     
  6. Kenney

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    I'd only carry a 22 under the condition that I was carrying 2 9mms with two spare clips a piece and for whatever reason I still don't feel comfortable. Even then, it'd probably be a compact.
     
  7. orangello

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    I'm not much on the AR's either, but some people really get into them with the various attachments (picatinny this & that, pink vette, beach house, ipod holder).
    ;)
     
  8. Kenney

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    If I meet someone with an iPod holder on an AR15, I'm going to beat them.
     
  9. JTJ

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    The biggest problem with the 22lr is the high rate of misfires. How many times have you had a cf not fire because of a bad primer? How many times have you had a 22lr not fire because of primer issues. Not counting crappy Tula ammo, I have had 3 dead cf primers in over 50 years. The Tula all fired the 2nd time and I wont buy anymore. I have tossed a lot of 22lr that would not fire even with multiple strikes. Reliability was the reason Browning designed the 25 auto.
     
  10. mudpuddleman

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    I personally carry a chiappa 1911 .22 as my open carry. A .22 will have the same effect on someone as a .45 ,however there is not the stopping power but its cheap,easy to shoot, accurate, my wife can shoot it without fear of recoil.
     
  11. orangello

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    Okay, that's a different story all together. That's being practical and not some punk with too much money wasting cash on something useless (which is what I thought at first.)
     
  13. CHLChris

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    I don't get it. All of the negatives of carrying a 1911 without any of the benefits? Am I missing something? Who cares about cheap-to-shoot for a carry gun? I'll gladly pay $1 per bullet if it will stop an attacker.
     
  14. Jpyle

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    That's really more of an issue with rimfire cartridges, not the caliber per se.
     
  15. Rick1967

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    I am sorry. But I often carry a 1911. I also use one for competition. What negatives? A massive bullet that knocks people down? A reliable platform that has been around for over 100 years? A massive supply of aftermarket parts? The only negative I see is that his shoots 22s.
     
  16. orangello

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    I'd bet he meant for concealed carry. 1911 ain't the lightest, smallest thing around, though the cross section isn't horrible. Probably easier to pack than my XD45 would be.
     
  17. Rick1967

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    I have mentioned several times that my wife carries a J-Frame in 22 mag. It holds 7 rounds. I wish she could shoot a .38. But she she is pretty good with the J-Frame. She is even better now that I but a laser on it for her.

    I would rather she carries a 22 mag that she is proficient with than to carry a 38 she is afraid to shoot.
     
  18. mudpuddleman

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    Yes its a 22 however a 22 will stop some in their tracks as well as it being accurate. Plus my wife can shoot it. I bought it partly to help her become more comfortable around wreapons.
     
  19. gollygee

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    Besides just fun plinking at the range, I think of the .22 as a trainer. You can learn proper techniques more cheaply. Ideally, the .22 should have close to the same feel/balance & same controls as the carry gun. Then a person can primarily practice with the .22 & only occasionally put a mag load or two through the carry pistol.
     
  20. CHLChris

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    Every handgun is a list of positives and negatives. The 1911 platform has negatives and positives, as well. I'm just thinking that a 1911 in .22lr has all of the negatives (size, weight, must disengage a thumb safety to fire) and none of the positives (.45acp huge bullet, awesome reliability).

    You won't find me knocking the 1911! I'm just aware that it isn't perfect.

    OK, back to .22lr being a really bad idea for self defense.