Testing the Waters...

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by BigByrd47119, Aug 31, 2011.

  1. BigByrd47119

    BigByrd47119 New Member

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    Hello everyone,

    Well, since I'm going to be getting a .380 relatively soon, it occurred to me that reloading may be a worthwhile investment for the future.

    My questions are as follows:

    1. Do you reload your own SD rounds? (legal implications?)
    2. What powder would you suggest for such a short barreled round?
    3. Any thoughts on the Lee Challenger Single Stage Press Anniversary Kit?
    4. More questions to follow, just give me time to think them up!

    And as always, thanks for the advice!
     
  2. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    1. NO! I load HP ammo for SHTF, but not for pre-apocolypse SD.
    2. The faster pistol powders work fine. I have used W-231, Red Dot and Green Dot with good results.
    3. I use a Dillon so I am not familiar with this loader.
     

  3. Bushman

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    Howdy!
    To answer some of your questions...
    1. NO! I was always taught to use ammo that has been successfully defended in court. People have been sued for using home loads on the basis that it was made to be more lethal or something stupid like that.
    2. I have used Accurate #5 for years, but have just switched to Alliant Power Pistol. I think there are a few different others that are fine, but I agree with Robocop that you would want a faster pistol powder.
    3. The Lee Challenger is fine if you want to just see if this is something you will like doing, and don't mind doing smaller batches, and because of having to change and reset the depth of each die you change to, but if you're like me, I got the single stage and quickly went to a Lee progressive press. So maybe think about getting a turret press if not a progressive. I think the Lee Turret is about $69.99.
    Good luck and enjoy reloading, I do...
     
  4. BigByrd47119

    BigByrd47119 New Member

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    Thanks to the both of you for the replies.

    The answer to question one was the question I was most...interested in. I can see where reloading for the zombie apocalypse makes sense however.

    Same still applies! I'm always interested in hearing everyone else's opinions on this kit. It seems really solid and I cant complain about the price Midway is asking for it!
     
  5. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    Thats a myth. No one has ever been prosecuted for handloads. A good shoot in self defense is a good shoot. Doesnt matter if your using a rubber band and paper clip or a 155 howitzer.

    I use factory rounds mainly because i cant get really good sd bullets for a decent price. I can hold up a factory loaded round and a handload loaded to the same fps you cant tell the difference.
     
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  6. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Correct. You will not be prosecuted for using handloads for SD, BUT an overzealous prosecutor WILL use it as ammunition (pun intended) to show you as an evil person intent on causing mayhem.

    It will be difficult to determine if a handload is used, but it will not be difficult to show you had reloads in the gun from the previous extractor/ejector marks left on the cases. The one or more fired cases will have the remnants of the previous firing.
     
  7. Bushman

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    Thanks for the correct info guys, my permit class instructor and I stand corrected.
    That being said, I'm sure that using ammo that current LEO's are issued, make it easier for your lawyer to defend a righteous shooting incident, No?
     
  8. Lindenwood

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    I would mostly use factory ammo because it will be assembled to the highest standards. I couldn't guarantee that my own reloads would still be good after a year against my body, but would trust a quality defensive round with its sealed primers and case mouths. But, you can't load anything that is any more effective than what you can buy.

    For SD, I'd honestly recommend a truncated cone or even a SWC if you can find one. Most .380 loads show inconstant performance even in bare gel. I'd rather just know my bullets will get there (the vitals) if I place them there, rather than hope it doesn't over-expand and under-penetrate.
     
  9. BigByrd47119

    BigByrd47119 New Member

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    Iv done a good amount of research into .380 in the last month or two, admitidly from information gathered online, and have NEVER found a single account of over expansion. Failure to expand, yes, but in that case my jhp becomes a fmj, so what have I lost? Nothing. Even at 25% expansion rates, I win with jhps over only fmjs. With that said, I'm comfortable with 10 inches of penetration with expansion considering iv got 6 more to follow up with if need be. Sorry, just can't see the logic in SWC's and FMJ's in .380...
     
  10. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    unless you do a whole lot of shooting and have progressive type reloader and can turn out hundreds of rounds, i would recommend from my personal viewpoint just buy some of the better off the shelf SD/LE type ammo for the 380. i buy PMC fmj ammo for mine to practice with and keep it loaded with Hornady 90gr XTP ammo for sd use. just my two cents worth.