TCP vs LCP--But more specific

Discussion in 'Semi-Auto Handguns' started by Gotguns7759, Apr 2, 2013.

  1. Gotguns7759

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    I've read a couple reviews and forms with people comparing each of these two guns about which is "better". ect... Anyway my question is more specific then the general A vs B gun. As far as reliability and functionality goes, I want to know which one SHOULD work/ be more reliable when wet/dirty/muddy when considering how they are made mechanically- how they operate.. ect.. I'm not What I mean is. if you take care of an AR and an AK. they will both function like they should and be comparable firearms (They will do what they were ment to do.) However, when you through them both in the mud they both might be subject to problems but the AK should be much less affected because of it's design. [I'm just using that as an example because it was something I read once, I don't own ether of them. So don't let your opinion of those two guns distract us from this topic please]
    Is their any diference in how these guns are designed that would make a SIGNIFICANT diference in how they operate when wet and muddy.
    Thanks,
     
  2. Colby

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    I bought a TCP. It malfunctioned nearly every magazine load. It was brand new - and clean. I sold it.
    I bought an LCP. It has never malfunctioned - it was brand new and clean. I still have it - it is my almost always go to - carry.

    No mud involved.

    Just my experience...
     

  3. BeyondTheBox

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    I believe both are recessed hammer fire operated, and pretty well concealed hammers. Honestly I think you'd be hard pressed to determine difference in the stress test category. Have you looked up stress tests on both guns
     
  4. 1911love

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    I've owned two LCPs. Both ran great, I pocket carry it in Florida with all the heat and sweat. I only traded the first one bc it was rusting with all the humidity. The one I have now is the hard chrome model. No more rusting, but good look finding one.
     
  5. Gotguns7759

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    That's more or less what i was thinking. That their would be little to no difference. But I hadn't looked for that, but I will. Thanks,

    @Colby & 1911, Thanks, I've heard a lot of good things about the lcp. I live in South Louisiana and humidity is a big issue here too.
     
  6. 1911love

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    Gotguns, IIRC it was a DLO exclusive. If ya gotta have it, PM me, there's a small chance I might be able to get one. I primarily deal with LEO distributors. It won't be cheap if you want it, and again I prob can't get it, but if you need I'll try. Also, its been 3 yrs since I got it, so the source may be dried up. I'm in Florida, so lots of FFL fees of course.
     
  7. 1911love

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    Oh also, I bought the Crimson Trace Laser Guard at the same time and it came with a nice pocket holster that accommodated the laser. Before I was running a DeSantis Nemesis. It's similar, but better quality. Nice pocket holster that "grabs" the inside of your pocket so only the gun comes out on the draw. DeSantis was GTG after I sliced off the QC tag on the inside BTW. It's all about holsters IMO for CC. Hope this helps.
     
  8. hardluk1

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    netherone was designed to work in mud. Small pistols demand more from the shooter and the ammo than large models. Both ruger and taurus have made upgrades to there pistols to make them more reliable. The TCP has a hold open and has a far better trigger than ruger and 2 more oz of weaight. We have to model that have a C in the serial numner and both have run great for a 400 plus rounds and seem not to care what hp ammo is used. If your going in to mud, use a darm baggy for the pistol. My wifes Stainless steel model has the sights painted to help then to stand out. Thats it. Just a couple great little pistols. If your not swiming in mud , just worried about normal working mans life in florida , use a good holster in your pocket and go to work. Mud , maybe glock or some old wobbly 1911 after a water dip and shack.
     
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  9. BeyondTheBox

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    I agree greatly when it comes to the trigger, however that means little when comes to how they will handle grit.

    Honestly it's less a matter of which model and more of which serial number. The tighter the gun the less gunk will get in. But unless you can handle in person you're basically hitting and hoping.
     
  10. chuckusaret

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    My daughter had the Taurus TCP380 that would not fire more than three rounds in a row without a failure even after two trips back to Taurus. She now has a LCP-CT that has been flawless.
     
  11. 1911love

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    Chuck, your daughter must be a shooter. Those LCPs kick like crazy! Most women that shoot mine don't ask for seconds.
     
  12. hardluk1

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    beyoundthebox Running a new pistol a bit wet and shooting 400 rounds each thru before cleaning with two tcps with out a single issue is not bad. If your looking for a pistol to throw in a mud puddle to soak and wash in a bucket of water I doubt many small pistols will pass. And thats never been on my test list. Guess you get to deside on your own.
     
  13. BeyondTheBox

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    I don't know, depends on the pistol and type. I believe a quality SAO would do fine. I don't believe any DAO or striker would. Either way it'd be fun finding out... ;P
     
  14. Gonzilla

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    Not many men ask to shoot a second clip out of mine either...:p
     
  15. hardluk1

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    I found with the TCP its easier to shoot one handed that try'n to get to man hands around it. Recoil is not an issue even with corbons or underwoods. My wife and daughter shoot there both one handed and two handed.
     
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    i dont like to bash products, because I dont think that any company sets out to make something that doesnt work, but it just seems like I have never heard anything good about the TCP. Which is a shame because on the regular around here you can found them for $199.00 all the time.
     
  17. Gonzilla

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    I agree but in essence, the TCP/LCP is a last ditch/stand kinda weapon and MUST be reliable as Job Number 1. Target guns can be finicky but when your life is on the line - the "usual suspects" or excuses just don't seem to cut it.

    For Taurus, it seems to be a roll of the dice. There are very happy gun owners but there seems to be a disproportionate number of dissatisfied ones. One FTF member said he was a LGS employee and Taurus was the most returned brand of firearm.

    Any mass produced firearm can have "issues" which can be overcome w exceptional customer service. I had one of the recalled LCPs and my experience- overall - was a positive. No idea if my gun received any extra attention (due to recall) but the performance after has been outstanding. Taurus can do this as well - what remains to be seen is - will they ?
     
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  18. hardluk1

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    jc191122 Words of wisdom from a non owner!! I have bought 4 problem handguns from owners that could not make there pistols function reliably. All 4 needed nothing but one of the following. Different ammo, cleaning and lubeing or a different shooter. Hard to know what was wrong as all worked great for me. All are in the hands of family memebers as a couple as CC handguns. Owners tend to be there worst enemy at times with many small lite weight handguns. The TCP as an example has been thru atleast 3 updates. The C is the last and those tend to be reliable in the hands of a skilled shooter. No different with ruger and kt, db sccy, and , and, many updates to those lines too. My last "used" pistol came from a very disgruntaled seasoned shooter. I don't know what he did wrong but that pistol one of my CC guns and now have a couple more of the same line.

    Our lgs /general store can't keep the tcps in stock over the last few years. Most times theres rugers and kt 380 sitting on the shelf, not the tcp. So maybe there better than some think. Like many "problem" pistols.
     
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  19. hardluk1

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    beyound the box You might have a hard time proveing that with those early glocks. Those darn things seems to be great as a low or no mantaince pistol for hard use. Don't even need much lube to run fine. Not sure many if any pistols will stand up to 300,000 rounds with no real problems as one ongoing long term test as showed. To bad I can't find a reason to keep one and i have had two , like shooting them even and pretty good with them. Just can't seem to keep them around like many others.

    Don't know about micro 380 pistols. I tend to shoot 400 to 500 rounds thru them to proof them and then they only get shot a mag or two at each range trip for other firearms ever couple weeks. Rounds add up but slower after that first 500 rounds with those micro pistols. The girls shoot them more than I do now.
     
  20. BeyondTheBox

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    Indeed and much agreed on all fronts. I love my Glock, however I never take it shooting with me anymore.