Taurus issues.

Discussion in 'Semi-Auto Handguns' started by deathkricket, May 4, 2010.

  1. deathkricket

    deathkricket New Member

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    I bought a taurus PT 111 PRO in 9mm about a month ago, i got to shoot it for the first time today, i put 200 rounds in it today, i love the way it feels and despite my sights being off by around 5 in, it was easy to make up for and put the rounds back on paper at 10 yards. now the bad, outa 2 different types of ammo, 100 rounds each, i had over 60 jams per type of ammo, it jammed more then it cycled properly, every thing from stove pipes to double feeds, to rounds not seating all the way in the chamber, to rounds as the slide pulled them forward they flew up out the top of the slide, and at one point, a round stove piped with one in the chamber and 2 crammed in behind it, it did sh%t i didnt even know a pistol could do. Now does the Taurus PT 111 PRO have a really long break in time or is this one of the "other" taurus products you here about, i shot from 5 diff hand positions to make sure i wasent limp wristing it and despite my best efforts i got about 3 rounds outa each mag without jamming as the rest jammed. At this point theres no way i would trust my life to this gun because i know it will jam, whats another good alternitive sub compact 9mm for around $400.
     
  2. deathkricket

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    Just a update i just broke it down and everything inside looks good, but i did notice when i put it back together that the mags do wiggle a good bit inside it, not like omg but more then say my glock, and when i charge it with a round in it i can feel the mag clicking and moving on my pinky finger, could it just be it has bad mags from the factory?
     

  3. Gojubrian

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    No telling, but I would send it back and/or sell it asap if it were me.

    It might be anothet Taurus issue we've been reading about for a while now. They seem to be turning out a new pistol every quarter, but every one has had issues.

    I had a pt111 for a while and never had an issue, but I only shot fmj ammo through it.

    Ruger LCR, Makarov, Used Smith or Ruger wheel snubbie.

    There are others out there just have a look around and keep your eyes open.
     
  4. Gojubrian

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    I doubt it, mine did the same thing and functioned good.
     
  5. NGIB

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    Typical Taurus "quality" - how they stay in business is beyond me. Send it in, get it fixed, and sell or trade it. The price on XDs is dropping, a local store had new ones on sale for $413. The used market has lots of good guns in that price range as well...
     
  6. deathkricket

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    I was just looking at the XD sub compact and i think i am going for that one.
     
  7. NGIB

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    I have one in 9mm and it's a great little gun.

    It's a shame that Taurus "traps" so many folks with their low price and impressive advertising. I'd love to see one of the gun magazines do a real test. Say buy 10 each of the most popular low-priced models and test them thoroughly. You couldn't contact Taurus for the test guns as they'd ensure only good ones were provided. I mean off the shelf guns from the local gun stores. Based on what I've seen, heard & experienced - I'd bet at least 10% of off the shelf guns would have problems.

    It's a shame no gun magazine will ever do this and I understand why - look at any of them and they are full of impressive Taurus full-page ads...
     
  8. deathkricket

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    Money talks, if they pay them to run fancy adds, the company's will want to endorse them to keep getting paid, i see what you mean, if it is my pistol thats messed up and not the mags, i do kinda feel bad to sell it as it will jam in a bind and could cost the lives of who ever buys it. In my mind its more of a moral dilemma like what if say a cop buys it as a back up and it fails him and he gets killed, i dont like the idea of selling a bunk gun. lol i guess it would be the same as being a used car salesmen :)
     
  9. gunsavy

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    I had a pt 1911 ss . Sweet gun cycled well . But one day it got stuck in between s/f cuz the safety was coming lose and I had only shot about 200 rounds. Sold it it and bought a p226.
     
  10. deathkricket

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    Well i went out today and picked up a XD sub compact in 9mm so problem solved, very solid pistol, ill do a range report on it when i get a chance to shoot it.
     
  11. Gojubrian

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    That's a great pistol! :cool:
     
  12. Mr. Bluesky

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    Is there anything that picture can't do? :p
     
  13. big shrek

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    Ruger does the same thing...I've owned three Ruger's, and they were all total junk.

    Big advertising, big aftermarket...big problems.

    This is why I've got Calico Pistols now, higher capacity (100 rounds) & less headaches.
    I am prepared for any zombie attacks ;)

    We do own one Taurus 24/7C in 9mm (compact), thusfar it's given zero problems after getting one bad magazine replaced.
    It's the wifey's CCW pistol. I carry a Glock 20 in 10mm :)

    Used to own a Taurus model 66 revolver in .357...tough rascal, but I sold it when I needed cash back in the 90's.
    Wouldn't mind having another one. I can't fault those wheelguns at all.
     
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  14. deathkricket

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    how thick is the glock 10mm compared to a normal glock? so you feel the added thickness when carrying it or holding it?
     
  15. Quentin

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    My 9mm Taurus PT111 Millenneum Pro has been a great little gun but all the complaints worry me. Never any problem with it over four years but it doesn't have a high round count, probably about 1000. The only thing it jammed on were some crappy reloads, good stuff functions fine.

    There are at least four generations of the PT111 and it seems Gen I of the Pro and the earlier non-Pro had structural problems. Mine is a Gen II and they seem to be much stronger. I think the Gen III is supposed to be good but then again it could be an economized Gen II, who knows.

    Doesn't lend itself to much confidence I'd say but I've had good luck (and with an old Taurus M85 38 Special).
     
  16. NGIB

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    I believe the 10mm Glock is very similar to the G21 .45 ACP. I had one and the grip felt like holding a 2x4.

    As far as your PT111, it's probably OK. Taurus does make some reliable guns and you were lucky and obviously got one...
     
  17. Texanbybirth

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    The usual comparisons to the Taurus are from Kahr and Keltec.

    I paid $418 NIB for a Kahr CW-9. You can figure about $100 less for a Keltec.
     
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  19. AIKIJUTSU

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    Taurus issues

    I presently have 2 Taurus pistols, a PT-145 for 4 years and a PT-940 for 3 years. They have been perfectly OK, since I learned how to manage them. I used the PT-145 to pass the CWP test, 50 rounds with no failures of any kind. The PT-940 I carry whenever I can wear enough clothing to cover it. The PT-145 is my "home in the dark" pistol, because of it's short nose and good retention characteristics. I practice with them once a week whenever possible. One thing I have found about Taurus pistols is that you have to use a serious strangle hold on them to make sure they cycle properly. They are pretty sensitive to movement under recoil.
    In the past I had a PT-101 that had feeding problems due to the magazine catch letting go under recoil, and letting the magazine drop down about a quarter inch. I pulled it out and re-installed it, and had no more trouble with it. After a couple more years I gave it to a friend who is kinda po'. He likes it.