Tapco Mini 14 Magazines Gen 2

Discussion in 'Mini-14 Forum' started by Commocarl, Jun 12, 2012.

  1. Commocarl

    Commocarl New Member

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    I did a search and didnt find any posts about them, so I thought I would start one.

    The Gen 1 Discussion.
    http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f95/tapco-mags-mini-14-a-26625/

    After seeing the Nutnfancy review I picked up one.

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    I have a newer tapered barrel Mini, and boy is that thing tight. I Inserted it about 10 times, nothing like steel on polymer to straighten things out. It is still tight but not as bad. I will take it to the range and give her a shot saturday and post my full opinion.

    I noticed in the Gen 1 discussion the magazines had a problem with the heat.

    I just wanted to see if any one is using the Tapco magazines and what they thought about them.
     
  2. Commocarl

    Commocarl New Member

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    Wow, this went nowhere.

    I haven't taken a sanding block to the magazine yet, to give it an "as is" look.

    It doesn't seat very easily, but I ran over 200 rounds through it today, no failures.

    I plan to sand it a bit so it will insert easier. I will update if anyone is interested.
     

  3. Neurotic_Hapi_Snak

    Neurotic_Hapi_Snak New Member

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    I have both Tapco gen2s and Thermold mags. Both feed fine, the Thermolds don't latch easily on a closed bolt, this is because of the stupid angled catch on the magazine. I'm thinking about gluing on a L shaped piece of sheet metal to fix it and make the mags last longer. Otherwise they're great, especially the $8 price :).
     
  4. tri70

    tri70 New Member

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    What kind of accuracy does the Tapco mags give? I like metal mags to tweak the lips on.
     
  5. Commocarl

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    I can't comment on an accuracy change. The range I go to (private) is revamping the berm and backstop so I used an active target (little orange tophat thing) for a target this weekend. Took my daughter out with me so we stayed within 20 yards of it. It took lots of hits from offhand shooting.
     
  6. Commocarl

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    Just an update

    I took 400 grit sandpaper on a sanding block to the magazine.

    I had two issues, first it was hard to line the pin in the rifle and the hole on the magazine, the magazine wouldn't seat first time everytime on a closed bolt. I very lightly sanded the top of the feed lips (15 or so light strokes). I did not significantly change the thickness of the feed lips.

    Second issue, once the front of the magazine was seated it was tough to pull it back to lock. This was very easy to figure out as the magazine was well marked on the rear showing where it was rubbing. On the rear of the magazine there is a noticable angle change at the top. I lightly sanded the angled area smooth using the rub marks as a guide.

    The magazine inserts and locks first time everytime. It takes about as much pressure to insert as my steel mags. Locked in it has no play or wiggle, it locks in and becomes part of the rifle.

    It is starting to heat up here in Texas so I should be able to test the spreading issue that people experienced in the gen 1. I have to say I really like the magazine so far. If 5 minutes with sandpaper is the only difference between it and a $40 ruger magazine, I'll take the $15 dollar magazine any day.
     
  7. hawkguy

    hawkguy Well-Known Member

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    generally, aftermarket mags have been heavily frowned upon by most mini users, and normally get mixed reviews.

    a few months back, hoffmans had ruger factory 20 rounders for $20 (once word spread, they were wiped out), and they still have 30 rounders for $30. deals can be had, but you have to be patient.

    thanks for taking the time to test these mags. it would be nice to find a cheap, reliable mag for the mini.
     
  8. tri70

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    I may have to get some to try and see what the buzz is about, weight is not that big of an issue for me I hardly fill my mags full.
     
  9. Commocarl

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    This has bugged me since I first read it. Couldn't put my finger on it till now.

    This community thrives on changing and adapting the Mini to their wants and needs. Lots of you guys don't let the lack of aftermarket parts deter you. Heck look at the tactical mag release, the improvised bolt release, the factory mag feed lip adjustments. I guess that is what bothers me about the disinterest in adapting aftermarket magazines.
     
  10. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I have seen some real crap out there but I have also seen some that are well made but just dont seem to function. How hard is it to copy a mag? It would not be too bad is all it took was a little tweaking. I ran into some after market mags that really look good but for the difference in price, you might as well buy Ruger.
     
  11. hawkguy

    hawkguy Well-Known Member

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    well, if it bothers you....keep on keeping on. :)

    like you said, i am amazed by all the people who love the mini & have worked hard to improve them on their own. look at the strut....just idea started by a mini fan, now they hang off 50% of the minis out there and 3-5 companies make them.

    such a shame ruger does not love the mini anywhere near as much as the owners! :mad:

    keep working on it & report back. one day everyone might be buying these mags and using your technique to adapt them. for me, i don't mind buying factory mags cause i don't stockpile a lot of mags. but for many gunowners who like to keep 10+ mags for each gun, a breakthrough on cheap mags could save them serious money!

    good luck!
     
  12. Commocarl

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    I have to agree, how hard is it to make a good consistant magazine? Buy a Ruger magazine and rifle, make measurements, design magazine, test, make money.

    I have stayed away from all aftermarket magazines because of the problems posted here.

    Anyway, this time I decided, what the heck, I'll walk out on that limb.

    It was only $15, so if it fails I'm not out much.

    It is constantly 100 degrees every day now, I am going to load that thing up and leave it outside on saturday.

    Keep you guys posted.
     
  13. Commocarl

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    I sent an e-mail to tapco to ask about the tight magazines. They allow that the magazines were manufactured for the older, pencil barrel minis. When ruger retooled they tightened up the mag well. So the tapco mags are too tight in the tapered barrel minis. They are in the process of getting a newer mini 14 and are going to refine the magazine again.

    Anyway, saturday is almost here!

    as always, I'll keep you posted
     
  14. Commocarl

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    10:15am 81 degrees
    I loaded the magazine with 30 rounds, placed in in a metal ammo can, placed that on the tin roof of my shed.
    only forcasted to get to 96 degrees today, I think all the metal will make up for that.
    I'll check it at 5pm, I almost expect a pile of rounds in a puddle of goo. LOL

    2pm 90 degrees
    Clouded over and started to rain, pulled the box in, all 30 rounds still in magazine.

    I will have to try again another day.
     
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  15. thumper347

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    My kids got me 4 of the Gen. 2 mags for fathers day.

    It took me a while to get out but I loaded them up last weekend and tried them out.

    Each one worked great, fed well and only one failed to lock the bolt back after the last shot.

    Woule I buy them again? You bet I would.
     
  16. Commocarl

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    It has been too cool here to retry the ammocan in the heat thing.

    I have left the magazine fully loaded for about 3 weeks now and have had no lip spreading.

    I do have a question for someone with a factory 30 rounder.

    I was playing around with the magazine today and noticed that it put a dent in the cartridge when I reinserted it several times with the bolt closed. With 29 rounds in the magazine it would not insert all the way. I tried this again with a metal P-Mag 20 round magazine and found the same to be true, I could not insert the magazine all the way with the bolt closed. I would assume that the odd round side presents the cartridge higher than the even round side.

    If someone has a Ruger 30 round magazine I would be interested in their results. One, inserting a fully loaded magazine on a closed bolt several times to see if it dents the cartridge. Two, inserting the magazine with 29 rounds on a closed bolt to see if it presents lots of resistance.

    Just a guess at this point, but I think the spring pressure on a fully loaded magazine is stiff enough to not allow the round to recess into the magazine when pressed against the bolt.

    I also think this is what is influencing Tri70s success at tweeking the mag lips in the "Tweaking the mag for better accuracy" thread. He is allowing the magazine spring to put more pressure on his bolt.
     
    Last edited: Jul 15, 2012