Taking trip tomorrow, driving back on....122112

Discussion in 'Survival & Sustenance Living Forum' started by 12fretter, Dec 20, 2012.

  1. 12fretter

    12fretter New Member

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    We joke about it because I put zero stock in the whole Mayan calendar crap. I'm not worried that I will be able to drive back home with no problems. But I took this opportunity to exercise building a GBH bag. (Get Back Home). It was a good exercise, and I learned that I may need a bigger sack in the future. But I got it all in. Here's what I surmised:

    275 miles away, would take about 7-9 days to walk home if need be. I packed 9 days worth of Mainstays and three cans of tuna, along with some simple sugar products for quick energy. Water purification tabs and a filter straw and will put as many bottles of water (bringing a case in the trunk) in the pockets outside the bag.

    Knife with paracord and magnesium stick
    first aid kit
    New, insulated hiking boots (worn in around the house) with two extra pair socks
    Flashlight, full Zippo with new flint and extra flint
    Baggie with two socks coated with Vaseline
    Walkie Talkie, solor/battery/crank multi-band radio with USB charger via crank if need be - all sealed in a mylar bag
    Rope, duct tape, cable ties
    50 round box .380 for carry (half FMJ, half JHP) One clip (in gun, JHP) two extra clips (FMJ)
    Two loaded 30 round clips for my AR-22 Ruger (Ruger 10-22, AR platform)
    Leatherman multitool and jewelers screwdriver set.
    $3 face value silver dimes

    Thunder 380 and the Ruger 10-22 (with 25 round clip loaded) slung in case

    My wife and daughter know if something happens, they grab my .45, wife's TCP the 22 magnum pump, , extra ammo, the other walkie talkie (in a sealed mylar bag), load 5 extra 5 gallon gas cans, and crank up the 76 GMC Sierra and start driving. Once they drive about 3 hours, they start squawking the walkie talkie every thirty minutes or so.

    So how did I do? What did I miss?
     
  2. sputnik1988

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    Can i ask why socks coated in vaseline?

    Also, a rifle of less 'menacing' appearance would be preferable if you had it.
     
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  3. kytowboater

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    Cold, alone, and lonely? Mans got needs.


    Lmao
     
  4. sputnik1988

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    This is the most awesome post I've seen in a long time. I seriously needed that. LOL
     
  5. 12fretter

    12fretter New Member

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    That was pretty friggin funny!

    Just in case the question was serious.... Fire starter.
     
  6. trip286

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    You'll want lighter fluid for that zippo, even though it's full. They're not airtight and the fluid evaporates. Actually, I wouldn't even bother to fill it unless I'm ready to use it, or think I may end up using it soon.

    Also, your extra flint can be stored inner the felt flap if you hadn't realized that.
     
  7. colmustard

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    Not a bad bag you have there. Also it is good you are prepared, not because of the myan crap. But becuase there might be people who belive it and may act a bit crazy!
     
  8. HockaLouis

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    Do you have a Mayan crucifix? If not, you're toast. Now, about the vaseline-infused sock puppet... Hey, who are we to judge? Whatever gets you home!

    Actually, my socks have been known to spontaneously combust.
     

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  9. bonney

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    better figure on a mountain bike, or twice as many days,. figure at night, too, or be shot, assuming we are talking shtf. gotta avoid open areas, especially if bright moonlight or snow to help see. So it will be more like 10 miles per night, or less. Better figure on a $200 passive IR monocular, at least, so you can frequently scan 360 degrees for enemies. better figure on concealable body armor, to stop shot pellets, handgun caliber carbines, and .22lr.
     
  10. bonney

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    oh, how about the gallon or more of SAFE drinking water, EVERY day? how about the 2 lbs of food, minimum, per day, when under heavy stress? how about some sleeping gear, to protect from sun, wind, insects, rain, fog, dew, snow? how about a walking stick and medical kit? Basic needs badly overlooked, man.
     
  11. HockaLouis

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    :rolleyes: Anyway...

    Let me get this straight, you're having your wife and daughter leave the house and drive hundreds of miles coming looking for you in a SHTF scenario!?

    Two guns just to get home. Hmmm... I like the sound of just the .22 Mag pump.

    And what's a $3 Face-Value Dime?
     
  12. 12fretter

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    From BONNEY:

    better figure on a mountain bike, or twice as many days,. figure at night, too, or be shot, assuming we are talking shtf. gotta avoid open areas, especially if bright moonlight or snow to help see. So it will be more like 10 miles per night, or less. Better figure on a $200 passive IR monocular, at least, so you can frequently scan 360 degrees for enemies. better figure on concealable body armor, to stop shot pellets, handgun caliber carbines, and .22lr.
    oh, how about the gallon or more of SAFE drinking water, EVERY day? how about the 2 lbs of food, minimum, per day, when under heavy stress? how about some sleeping gear, to protect from sun, wind, insects, rain, fog, dew, snow? how about a walking stick and medical kit? Basic needs badly overlooked, man.


    First, what part about this:

    "So how did I do? What did I miss?"

    do you not understand? See, this is a civil question asking for a civil response. I suggest you look it up since you have no idea what that means.

    Next, who is more prepared? The person who THINKS he can bring everything he needs with him (like 20 days worth of food AND water) or someone who knows they can survive in the wild long enough to get back home?

    And HockaLouis, let's think for a moment: Armed wife and Armed daughter leaving within hours of crisis beginning, will be back within 8 hours with family in tact, or leaving them for 10-20 days....

    Yeah, I'll take that bet. Yes, I want them to leave within a couple hours of the beginning of a crisis to come and get me. Absolutely. Do you really think all the looting and shooting is going to start happening that first day? The vast majority of the sheeple in this country will be celebrating the fact that they don't have to work that day. Yes, my wife and daughter have a window of complete safety to drive four hours to come and get me. I would absolutely make that bet, and so would they to make us stronger and more secure on day 2, when people might start figuring it out.

    I may have missed a couple items in my bag, but I would stick by my plan.
     
  13. HockaLouis

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    To be or not to be...

    I gotta think about that one some more. The ladies leaving home, family, supplies, and friends behind, burning fuel, not knowing quite where they're going, probability of not finding you anyway, subject to the exigencies of the situation... I'm afeared you'll get home and never, ever, find out what happened to them for the rest of your life other than reading the note that they left for you before they headed off towards, and at, your general direction.

    It IS SHTF, right? If IT really hasn't hit the fan yet then, what difference does it make -- is it SHTF and it's a rescue mission or S-Will-HTF-Pretty-Soon and it's a Sunday drive? One's an emergency preparedness scenario, the other is a less-than-ideal lift...

    Guess it depends on the situation and timing but my loved ones leaving home except under the most favorable circumstances is out of the question to me. Interesting, albeit a little thin IMO, plan though.

    I haven't given up that unicycle whose tire and frame are filled with lightly chlorinated water myself...

    Glad u got home safely (and that the world didn't end, damned Mayans!). But the dime?
     
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  14. 12fretter

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    You made some assumptions you shouldn't have. We used to live within 5 miles of where I was traveling to so both my wife and daughter know the exact route, they have driven it many times. And I don't agree with you that things are black and white. It doesn't matter what you call your SHTF scenario, there is always a time frame where no one will know what is happening yet, therefore, there will be no to very little panic happening at first. You CAN have it both ways. The worst can happen, and the idiots won't know anything until they are told that their credit cards won't work anymore. From SHTF until I get home, 8 hours. Yes, I think I can have it both ways. But you made me think.

    And the dimes...$3 face value of silver dimes. Thirty silver dimes.
     
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  15. HockaLouis

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    You'll have to tell me what assumption I made. How can they know where they're going -- YOU are moving, remember? Another!?

    In fact, I was trying to point out that in any SHTF you may not want to rely on assumptions that are required for your safe transit and conduct. Call it the fog of war. You're arguing again "there's a safety window of opportunity." Sorry, I don't buy that -- there is little a five minute drive from home you should expect to control in a real SHTF scenario let alone a four-hour drive away. And the issues grow exponentially the farther the ladies drive. Heck, just a bad snow storm can throw all your perfect plans into a cocked hat...

    That's what you expect your wife and daughter to venture out into without even a word from you!? Not lovin' it. And not gettin' the dimes thing exactly. That's OK. You are carrying silver of some kind (presumably enough to pay their ransom as requested over the Midland walkie talkie?)...
     
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