Switching the barrel and stock of my Colt AR-15=Impossible??

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by FlintandSteel, Apr 6, 2011.

  1. FlintandSteel

    FlintandSteel New Member

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    So here is the deal.

    I inherited two AR-15's. One is a stock Colt AR-15 (Mil spec with standard everything) and also a Bushmaster AR-15 with short barrel and telescopic stock.

    I had the "bright" idea of switching the barrel's and stocks because I wanted the Colt with the shorter barrel. But much to my dismay I can't remove the stock from the Colt AR-15. It is an older model, so is this just the way it is.

    Also, I can't remove the upper receiver from the lower receiver.

    What the heck is going on? The Bushmaster comes apart no problem.
     
  2. Jpyle

    Jpyle New Member

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    can you post some pics...might help.
     

  3. FlintandSteel

    FlintandSteel New Member

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    This is the Colt I have:
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    This is the bushmaster:
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    The buffer unscrews really easily on the bushmaster but looks like it cannot be taken off of the Colt.

    Is this some kind of old school Colt design thing?
     
  4. Quentin

    Quentin New Member

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    I guess you're saying you want to swap uppers between the two ARs? Well the Colt probably has the non-standard size pivot pin so you're gonna have trouble. If you're saying you want to swap stocks that can happen but really, why do it?

    I'd keep the Colt original, there's no need to put Bushmaster parts on it. Besides its value to people who appreciate a fine old gun, it should have value to you as a family heirloom. Whoever passed it on to you probably wanted it to stay original and in the family.

    As you get older you'll be sorry that you dicked around with something special. Definitely leave it alone and enjoy it! Mess around with the Bushmaster instead.
     
  5. FlintandSteel

    FlintandSteel New Member

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    Maybe your right.

    I just love the function of the Colt but love the short barrel and stock of the bushmaster.

    Might keep the Colt as is and mess around with the Bushmaster.

    I still wish I had the option to swap everything out though.
     
  6. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    the colt parts are removable. colt just torques everything down to milspec or used to. you can get offset pin for the front takedown pin on the colt to adapt small size pins tot he colt lower. however i dont recomend doing so and ruining a classic rifle. just keep the colt as-is and muck around with the bushmaster.

    i know that if whomever ends up with my old colt SP1 jacks around with it i WILL come up out of the grave and slap them.
     
  7. WoodysKJ

    WoodysKJ New Member

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    That looks like an older Colt SP-1 A-1 HBAR. What does the SE# start with?

    You can take the upper off. Show us a close up of both sides of the receivers on the colt.

    Whne you do get them seperated the colt will have larger pivot pin holes so you will need an offset bushing for the upper section to fit on the bushmaster and an off set pin for the bushmaster upper on the colt.

    The colt buttstock will come off. two screws on the face of the butt, take top one out and stock will pull off the buffer tube. Should be able to see if the tube is staked at that point. Once you determine that, don't forget to remove the buffer and spring and retainer.

    It can be done BUT WHY DO IT!?!?!?!?!

    Leave the colt alone. monkey with the bushmaster, it deservers to me monkeyed with.

    I'll give ya 500.00 for the COLT, CASH Money!!!! Hell I'll even pay the shipping.
     
  8. mjkeat

    mjkeat New Member

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    DON'T swap anything b/w rifles!!
     
  9. FlintandSteel

    FlintandSteel New Member

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    Negative. Sorry man.

    For now I am going to leave both rifles as they are.
     
    Last edited: Apr 7, 2011
  10. WoodysKJ

    WoodysKJ New Member

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    damnit!!, Oh well. Keep me in mind, I will go 550.00 plus shipping, BUT THAT'S MY LAST OFFER!

    Jez, what'ya think I'm made of money here, or what?
     
  11. FlintandSteel

    FlintandSteel New Member

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    This is the AR-15 that I inherited from my late father. The old man would not approve. I am either going to keep it as is or make it more combat efficient.

    But if you offer me $20,000 and two Hawaiian islands we might have a deal.
     
  12. Quentin

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    Flint, sorry to hear about your father passing. But I'm sure he was proud of the old Colt and would want you to keep it as is. No doubt he knew better than mess with something with collector value and likely bought the Bushy to tinker with.

    You can have lots of fun with both. There's nothing quite like an old M16A1 style AR and you'd hate yourself later if you screwed it up.
     
  13. Sniper03

    Sniper03 Supporting Member Supporter

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    FlintandSteel,

    Sir,

    You have made the correct decision to keep the Colt SP-1 in it's original condition. It is a collectors piece these days. Matter of fact back during the Brady Bill 1994-2004 That rifle would easily bring $1600-$1800. They are still highly sought after today. I have one similar to yours in my collection. There is no way I would touch that rifle other than shoot it take excellent care of it. Remember dad's gift of a fine piece and pass it on to your next of kin as you father did. I am also sorry you lost your father and I am sure your dad had planned on you having it since I am sure he knew its value and the obvious value to him. If you want something else I would at best only think of selling the Bushmaster and getting what you want. And would probably have to think long and hard before I did that. Just a thought!

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  14. WoodysKJ

    WoodysKJ New Member

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    Best offer I will do is 575.00 and two sunken Hawaiian islands.

    I am glad you have seen the value of this piece. Your father would be proud.
     
  15. FlintandSteel

    FlintandSteel New Member

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    Kind words and sound advice gentlemen.

    Appreciate it.