Survival rifles

Discussion in '.22 Rifle/Rimfire Discussion' started by bwalka, Feb 14, 2012.

  1. bwalka

    bwalka New Member

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    As anybody thought about using a cricket or a cheap mossberg auto 22 lr or 22 mag as a survival rifle. With a hollow stock you could hold lost of supplies like you could make a parracord strap and that could hold a small neck knife. The stock could have a space blanket an shells or an extra mag or two if it's an auto. Fishing supplies. A striker and some matches and small fire starting supplies. Any thoughts on this
     
  2. bwalka

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    Or even a cheap bolt 22 or 17hmr like the savage that can be bought for under 200
     

  3. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    A survival rifle means exactly that. Survive. It needs to be tough and reliable. Cheap is not always tough and reliable. A good bolt action is easy to clean and stays cleaner than a semi auto. It will handle more different brands and types of ammo than a semi auto. It will be inherently more accurate. If I were looking to buy one, I would look at the Savage mark II FV-SR which is threaded for a suppressor. $315 MSRP. I would put a solid scope on it that was designed for a 22lr or a shotgun and not a $50 special. There are other good solid trouble free brands out there. But keep it simple and a bolt is simple.
     
  4. bwalka

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    I put those because I own both and just had a spur of moment idea thought you could put stuff inside stocks and paracord strap could hold a knife sheath so neck or diving knife
     
  5. bwalka

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    If possible some gun oil wipes to help keep clean
     
  6. bwalka

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    Could also use a single shot rifle or shotgun if wanting more power
     
  7. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I believe there was a post about storing gear in a plastic stock some time ago. Savage used to make a combo rifle and shotgun (over/under) in several calibers and gauges. I believe they made the 22lr with 20 gauge and 410.
    I already own a good bolt action 22lr so I am not looking for another right now. If I were it would be the FV-SR.
     
  8. unclebear

    unclebear New Member

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    I almost bought a rifle/ shotgun over under today top barrel was a 22WM and the bottom was a 3" .410 I had ideas about hollowing out the stock so I could put a survival stash in it but then my girl friend talked me out of it.
     
  9. 30-30remchester

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    I like SOME of your thinking but my job for 36 years was as a logistian. A person who supplies for various construction jobs, most far from any additional supplies. As JTJ said, in a survival situation you want NOTHING and I mean NOTHING cheap. Buy the cheap stuff for play. Only the best should be used for survival. Your plan has some good ideas that need work, but your are thinking in the right direction. First while the paracord slings are cool and practical they are also impractical. So you need to use the paracord for some project and all at once your gun has no carrying strap. Compromise by wrapping paracord around a light leather sling. Next the hollow butt is a great idea but of limited space so much thinking should go into its supplies. A way to accsess the supplies under the buttplate must be considered. Drilling a large cavity in the buttstock weakens the buttstock as well so I suggest 2 smaller holes spaced evenly. The buttstock will never carry enough to help much. The items I would choose is a small fixed blade knive with out handles. Metal match and at least one firestarter. An item all forget is probably the most important, a small fishing kit. You will probably eat more fish than game. Twenty five yards of fishing line can be spooled around a sewing bobin. A few hooks, splitshot sinkers , a few flies and a couple plastic worms take up little space. An unlubricated condom to use as a canteen and a few water purification tablets are a must. Extra cartridges but forget extra magazines as most guns can be single loaded if needed and magazines use up much valuable space. Another must is a small light source if you have to move at night. A PHOTON Micro flashlight is about the size of 3 quarters stacked and weighs less than an once and can be seen for a mile and can burn for hours. If anything I would work to fit in a leatherman tool as it has so many advantages and can replace the above knife. Small items can be added where space is available like needles, ect. And the 22 long rifle or 22 magnum are the choice of experenced outdoorsmen. I would suggest a small backpack tied to the gun with additional supplies, so when the rifle is picked up the backpack comes along for the ride. I have done the exact thing with the survival guns I have built and actually used the supplies in a controlled 24 hours in the field. Whatever you choose, try them out on a 24 hour field trip. Do what you want but these worked for me.
     
  10. big shrek

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  11. bwalka

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    I could do it with something like a Rossi wizard or a cheap Rossi single shot rifle in 223 or 243 if I wanted more power than a 22 and could still hold supplies in a stock. Only problem with leather slip with paracord wrapped around is leather isn't water proof. Paracord sling pluss some wrapped around stock to hold another knife or shells and what have you
     
  12. leaky5

    leaky5 New Member

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    You can make a double layered sling, that would give you approx. 40-45 ft of cord that can be unwrapped without compromising the sling.