Survival essentials

Discussion in 'Survival & Sustenance Living Forum' started by FALPhil, Jul 13, 2007.

  1. FALPhil

    FALPhil New Member

    282
    0
    0
    I am trying to come up with a small, essential survival pack that will fit in 120 C.I, which would be 3x5x8. Here is what I have so far:

    multitool
    waterproof matches or bic lighter
    small light (I like shake-em-ups)
    water purification tabs
    small bandage assortment
    antibiotic ointment
    pillbox with analgesic, benadryl, & vitamins
    power bar
    wire saw
    whistle
    small compass
    collapsible cup or dry condom

    At this point, I am running out of room. What else do you think would fit?
     
  2. survival

    survival New Member

    8
    0
    0
    A suggestion

    I have no idea where you intend to store or pack your survival kit, but limiting the size of the kit might be a mistake. I always select the items I think I'll need then find a container, not the other way around. Limiting the gear you take could very well limit your chances for survival. Now, I realize kits have to have some limits, or they'd end up as big as my car, and what I consider important, you may not. But, consider these needs,

    1. water
    2. shelter
    3. first aid
    4. fire
    5. rescue
    6. food (very important in cold weather)

    Of course the order of the items could very well change, depending on your skills and the environment you're in. Except in most cases the need for food is very low, when compared to the need for water, shelter or other concerns. Most folks can last 14 days, or longer, without food, but only days without water, unless in hot climates. In the desert, unless you find shelter immediately, you could very well be dead in a few short hours.

    I would suggest you try to inclued a metal match (in case your other fire making tools fail. I always have at least two fire sources) and a signal mirror. It does little good to survive, if one cannot attract the attention of rescue teams. And, speaking of signals, remember to place them once your survival site is organized and carry or learn how to signal using natural resources, like snow or pine limbs.

    Take care and stay safe in the woods,

    Gary
     
    Last edited: Jul 14, 2007

  3. bkt

    bkt New Member

    6,964
    0
    0
    You certainly nailed the top six. I would add:
    7. Proper clothing for the season
    8. Self defense/hunting
    9. Navigation (maps, compass, GPS)
    10. Communication (at least a crank radio to get news)

    Don't limit your survival packs to a specific size. If necessary, assemble packs tailored for different seasons.

    Keep the basics with you always -- in your car, office and home.
     
  4. FALPhil

    FALPhil New Member

    282
    0
    0
    Ah, there's the rub. The chances of my needing to survive in the woods is very minimal. I don't live in the woods (unfortunately). I live in the 'burbs and work in the city. I am thinking that if I need a survival kit, that

    - it should be unobtrusive so as not to attract attention to itself
    - it should enable me to navigate to my pre-established rendezvous point
    - it should provide or enable me to acquire sustenance for the period it takes to get to the rendezvous point
    - it should contain rudimentary aids to health

    I do not count my weapons as part of the kit. Weapons are weapons, and I am always armed. In the city and the 'burbs, shelter is easy to acquire. In my part of the world, I have more to fear from heat than cold.

    I like the size of 120 c.i. because I never have a reason to leave it behind. Like guns, big and bulky lends itself to being left behind, depending on circumstance. Small and unobtrusive means you can carry it anywhere. Therefore, I am going to operate within that parameter.
     
  5. DSAPT9

    DSAPT9 New Member

    49
    0
    0
    I know this is an old post but I would like to add to your list large thick 30-gallon trash bags. They can be used for shelter; rain gear; shade, food gathering and 4 to 5 take up very little space in your field pack. Get the non-insecticide type because it could effect the food you may gather and if used as temp rain gear when wet may cause an allergic reaction to you. I also like chewing gum and hard candy. The gum if not too sweet will help keep your teeth clean and your mind occupied and the hard candy adds some nutrition and keeps you mouth from getting dry if you have a long way to walk to get to your destination.
     
  6. DSAPT9

    DSAPT9 New Member

    49
    0
    0
    They can be used to make a solar still as well if water is not readily available. It takes several per person to get enough water in hot climate but any water is better than no water.
     
  7. DSAPT9

    DSAPT9 New Member

    49
    0
    0
    I understand FALPHIL states he is looking at more of an urban setting but sometimes things may change. Areas block by communities protecting their turf or areas of cities with a infectious disease where you may have to live in the woods/desert to relocate to a new city or take the long way around an area where you should plan for both types of survival.

    I just believe in being prepared for all circumstances if possible.
     
  8. ForgeDeath

    ForgeDeath New Member

    2
    0
    0
    A small roll of 20 guage steel snare wire will come in handy, it's lightweight, multi-use, and can obviously be a source of food.

    The wire-saw however, I strongly advise against.
    I've had many wire saws made by different companies and all of them seem to break within the first few cuts, they don't make a good snare like they state on the package either as the wire is too thick and it's too short to make an effective snare.

    If I were you I'd scrap the wire saw for a good folding saw, Gerber makes an excellent one that is worth the buck you pay for it, although it may take up more space than the wire saw it will definately suit you better.

    I also reccommend a firesteel flint starter. They work the best out of any firestarting flint I've used.

    But like I said, throw in a roll of snare wire, it's a survival kit must.

    ALSO, those foil-looking solar blankets,
    take up hardly any room, lightweight and can be used to keep warm, used as a signaling device to reflect sunlight and catch the eye of an aircraft flying above, or a makeshift roof for your shelter, helps keep the rain out
    just try not to poke a stick through the plastic planket or it'll leak like a sieve.|

    Cheers
    Forge
     
    Last edited: May 27, 2009
  9. sgtdeath66

    sgtdeath66 New Member

    962
    0
    0
    ive got a small survival kit. mine is a med. sized backpack and it includes
    folding shovel, hatchet, two multi tools, waterproof fire sticks, water proof matches, a magnesium fire striker, a lighter, water tabs, eco friendly moist wipes, survival book, surefire flash lights (2) one led one one halogen, (2) belt knives, bino's, 300 ft of thin rope, fruit snacks and granola bars. and soon enough i will add a mess kit with an aluminum or metal cup and a mid priced feild medics kit:cool:
     
  10. Lowrider

    Lowrider New Member

    171
    0
    0
    I would add a fishing line and a few hooks. Very little space and provides for a large amount of potential food. Lots of bait available with worms, bugs, grasshoppers, etc.
     
  11. sgtdeath66

    sgtdeath66 New Member

    962
    0
    0
    cant beleive i forgot about fishin line
     
  12. GatorDude

    GatorDude New Member

    218
    0
    0
    If you are trying to attract attention and rescue, I'd make sure you have a mirror, a flashlight, and a loud whistle.

    I also wonder if a small magnifying glass would be helpful for starting fires.
    Also, what about something for water purification? I think one of those water purification pens might be good. Also a metal cup or bowl for collecting water and cooking might also be helpful.
     
  13. jeffware

    jeffware New Member

    50
    0
    0
    mr falphil, previous postings offer good advice. a few things not listed are one's i'd like to suggest. i quickly scanned these topics, and forgive me if i did not see these items listed. insect repellant like a small bottle of muskol or other brand which is primarily DEET. toothbrush, small (cut a normal one one in half) and travel size toothpaste. soap, liquid, travel size bottle (2oz). emergency thermal blanket (approx 4"x2"xhalf inch) etc. make up an emergency backpack with anything you think is needed. including a baseball hat for sun protection. i apoligize if my suggestions exeed your stated size parameter. i have a personal survival backpack (mil issue ALICE) loaded up for travel. i carry 2 bottles of water @ 2 liters each, a big swiss army knife, some mil type mre (meals ready to eat), and most of the other stuff discussed. jeff.
     
  14. IGETEVEN

    IGETEVEN New Member

    8,358
    4
    0
    All very good survival items and most, if not all were listed, but the best advice I can give you is first pick up anything that will help with water purification, tabs, portable straw units and filters, bleach and charcoal. Second, I do not know what part of the country you live in, but if its anywhere here in the southern states you better have lots of bug dope, Deep Woods Off works and anything with Deet, as mentioned by Jeff. Last thing, as mentioned by BKT, do not limit the size of your survival pack. Make several packs, most people will not be alone and your family will help carry the others, if not, depending on where you are at, there are always pack horses or mules, you can commender, even a big dog can be outfitted to carry.

    Jack
     
  15. Kill-Zone

    Kill-Zone Guest

    Alcohol pad's - not only can ya clean up a cut or two they work great for fire making.....A zip-lock bag of dryer lint for the same light and easy to carry......
     
  16. jeffware

    jeffware New Member

    50
    0
    0
    water purification

    sometimes it helps to hear good info from more than one source. so to confirm what mr igeteven implied, relpenishment of drinkable water is a critical part of survival. water purification tablets are sold in little bottles. these tablets use something like iodine. i have used these in the field, and you can fill a canteen from a stream or pond. the military uses these. secondly, most homes have a hot water heater. this tank may be full of clean water that most persons overlook. mr igeteven also mentions other methods of water purification that i have read about. investigate these also. sorry if you think i'm harping too much on is topic. jeff.
     
    Last edited: Jul 6, 2009
  17. RL357Mag

    RL357Mag New Member

    3,250
    0
    0
    A folded piece of clear poly takes up no space and can be used for several things including acquiring water by condensation.