Surefire overrated?

Discussion in 'Firearm Accessories & Gear' started by TxHeaven, Jan 4, 2014.

  1. TxHeaven

    TxHeaven New Member

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    I have been looking for a solid, BRIGHT flashlight. Headlamp would be great as well. Surefire is bright, but $189 for a FLASHLIGHT?! In your experience, is it worth it?
     
  2. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    i'd have to look up the specs and what it came with to make that decision, but Surefire so far seems to be one of the top brands in flashlights.

    i have the StreamLight brand Stinger LED. puts out 340 lumens, has an extra battery stick, two cords for charging, one is for 12 volt DC and the other is for 115 volts AC. paid about $180 and it's well worth what i paid. my other regular Stinger cost about $130 when i bought it about four years ago. but i can use the chargers and the battery sticksin both Stingers. i have a base in my truck, one in my office and one at work.

    a quality LED flashlight is usually going to cost a bit. they tend to be made much better and put out much more light. many LEO's are using the Surefire and the StreamLight flashlights.

    you can buy the cheaper LED that claim very high output of light for a really cheap price, but they tend to not last very long and are not as bright as claimed to be. you get what you pay for when buying flashlights.
     

  3. Jagermeister

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    My two Surefires really light up the room for such a small package. They will also blind a BG in the dark for awhile. My father-in-law accidently pointed the flashlight in my eyes. It was an irritant and it did blind me for a good while. I think they are worth it.
     
  4. Doc3402

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    I've had MagChargers, Stingers, and Strions over the years, and without a doubt I got my money's worth on all of them. Unless you are prone to losing things I would say go for it.
     
  5. BillDeShivs

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    Surefires are good lights. LE uses Streamlights because they are good lights that can be used as weapons.
    There are $30 LED flashlights that are just as bright as either. Maybe not as durable, but as bright or brighter.
     
  6. Sniper03

    Sniper03 Supporting Member Supporter

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    Surfire lights are very good and I have some. But there are other lights that are good lights also and most of the time for less money. Streamlight is one of them.

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  7. Dearhunter

    Dearhunter Supporting Member Supporter

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    I have UltraFire flashlights. low cost, rechargeable batteries, 900 lu. I bought four of them. I have one on my SW AR, one on my grip handle pump shotgun. The other two are next to a couple of handguns I have ready to go around the house. I always take one hunting when I go. Been a couple of years now and have had no problems.

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  8. stag556

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    I really like the Fenix brand of flashlights. Much brighter than the surefire, well built, and half the price. I have one on my AR (TK22) with 350 rounds and no problems. The thing is if you go with a high end flashlight, see what kind of batteries it takes. A lot of flashlights that are in the 400 plus range take 18650 batteries, and for a good high end battery, ( I use orbtronic 3400 mah) your talking 20 bucks a battery. Granted they are rechargeable but still expensive for a battery. Here's my collection so far.

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  9. TxHeaven

    TxHeaven New Member

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    I just ordered the Fenix Headlamp and Handheld. Will let you know how they perform. Looks great: value to performance.
     
  10. JohnJak

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    I have had my surefire 9p for 12 years and never had a problem lighting up the entire block.
     
  11. seancslaughter

    seancslaughter New Member

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    I have a little stream light tlr it cost like 60 bucks is like 110 lumens has bright, low and strobe settings uses cr123 batteries I love it it is the size of a pack of lifesavers
     
  12. TxHeaven

    TxHeaven New Member

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    Oh MAN! The Fenix lights came in today and they are exactly what I was looking for. BRIGHT and more affordable. I picked a 420 lumen tactical handheld for $85 and a 500 lumen headlamp for around the same. a 200 lumen headlamp was the same price at REI. Surefire is $150 plus for the handheld. Doesnt seem worth it when there are comparable options. Thank you for the advice.
     
  13. stag556

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    Good to hear, I have been thinking of getting a headlamp just never got to it yet. Which Fenix headlamp did you get?
     
  14. John_Deer

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    I don't see the point of buying s surefire when you can get a knock off light with a better cree bulb and a sturdy aluminum housing. I paid $30 for the 1600 lumen light on my shotgun. It has lasted two years so far. I have fired hundreds of rounds with that light mounted on my shotgun, maybe over a thousand. I don't see any surefire light doing that. What I see is people paying big bucks for a surefire to put the same bulb in it on day one that came in my $30 knock off light.

    Look at flashlights on ebay. You will see the chinese knock off lights are more powerful and a lot more inexpensive. You can't sell junk on ebay very long. Your seller rating will go downhill in a hurry. When you see flashlight vendors with over 20,000 sales and a 99% seller rating their lights have to be good.
     
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  15. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    look at the brands of flashlights carried by LEO's and firefighters. that should give a person some idea as to what are good brands to buy.

    i buy the Streamlights because they work well, they are bright, they are tough and i can get parts for them if needed. no they aren't cheap, but quality does cost sometimes.
     
  16. sandog

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    You don't have to pay $189 for Surefire quality. Walmart sells the Surefire G2X Pro for around $90. It is dual output, 15 lumens for lighting up your front door to stick the key in, 320 lumens for blinding the bejeezus out of a bad guy. Optics Planet has sveral models that go for less that $120. I agree with Axxe, not too many police, firefighters or military using $30 knock off lights.
     
  17. FernandoTheCommando

    FernandoTheCommando New Member

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    Fenix lights are awesome! Priced right and super high quality. I own fenix and streamlights and i love them both.
     
  18. Doc3402

    Doc3402 New Member

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    I buy Streamlight because the ones I like in the sizes I want are rechargeable. Just slap them in the charger. No, they aren't the brightest light out there, but they are more than ample for my needs. The most expensive Streamlight I have is the Stinger DS LED. It came with 2 battery sticks and a piggyback charger for just under $120.
     
  19. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    i have the Streamlight Stinger C4 LED. rated at 350 lumens and it is one bright light! has the piggyback charger and an extra battery stick. reason i went with it, because i can use the same charger and battery sticks in my older Stinger flaslight. cost me about $180, but it was worth it.

    i have three charging bases now. one in my office, one mounted in the truck and one i keep at work. my Stinger gets used a lot. at work and home.
     
  20. FernandoTheCommando

    FernandoTheCommando New Member

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    Streamlight makes the best value for the money I believe. Although the fenix light I recently bought (tk 11) may have changed my brand loyalty. My streamlight polytac is used for bed side hd illumination because it only has one setting. The fenix I carry in a molle holster on my 5.11 rush bag. One very bright 300 lumen setting and one 60 lumen setting for every day tasks. I think surefire is over priced although they are quality. They remind me of Harley Davidson. Nice bikes, American made, classic. But, for the money, the European and Asian bikes are just as well made and reliable for a slightly cheaper price. Lol before I get ripped on the bike comment, I've owned and ridden bikes from a lot of brands including Harley. But yeah back to the lights, you can't go wrong with streamlight or fenix.