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This is more toward gun store employees/managers:

What is the dumbest/stupidest thing that a customer has done?

I have read this on another forum, and it seems muzzle sweeping was daily, dry firing at you is very common, and ADs even happen..
 

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I was at a gun store once that had picture frames around their bullet holes in the walls from AD's... It had some surly note above the frames, but I can't remember what it said.
 

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Never seen anything really dumb at the gun shop, but at cabelas they put their used guns out on racks for everyone and their brothers ti handle, they zip tie the actions, I can't tell ya how many people I have seen cut the zip ties off and they are working the action and constantly dry fire it and muzzle sweeping you and all it would take is for someone to grab a box of shells or cartridges and load up and boom, scary to think about and I wanna just slap people when I see it, I can't believe they dont use trigger locks on these, anyone with a pocket knife is able to cut a zip tie off.
 

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You don't even need a pocket knife to undo a zip tie. All you need is a finger nail to lift the little tab and you can simply pull it open.
 

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You don't even need a pocket knife to undo a zip tie. All you need is a finger nail to lift the little tab and you can simply pull it open.
This is true, but most people, carry pocket knives so its easier to cut em, I wish ours would use trigger locks but they don't, I usually avoid that area like the plague, I've seen guys do it with bows too, they Zip tie the string to the cables, Ive seen guys cut em and draw em back, seen one dude dry fire one and blow it apart, even seen two teen skater kids running around shooting arrows at each other with a youth bow.
 

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Here's the thread that gave me the idea:

http://www.ak47.net/forums/t_1_5/1380393_Gun_store_employees____Two_questions_for_you_.html&page=1

Some of these make you question why you associate with the human species.
You've got that right. :eek:

Worked in a gun store for about 3 years. Muzzle swept numerous times a day, comes with the territory.

Two instances in particular stand out.

First was this wannabe cop that use to come in 1-2 times a week. Annoying little ****, broke as **** and would buy a Glock "for duty" (he was a security guard), come in the next week and sell it for a significant loss, come in the next week and buy the same model Glock again. This probably happened ten times with a loss of at least $100 per transaction. That's beside the point. Biggest instance I remember was one day he came in carrying a 1911 in an OWB holster cocked with safety off. Says he wants to sell the gun and proceeds to un-holster it with his finger on the bang switch. I immediately moved out of the way of the BFH (big ****ing hole) and took it from his hands. He could see I was perturbed and told me it was empty. I dropped the mag and see it is fully loaded so I proceed to lock back the slide and low and behold a ****ing .45ACP Gold Dot bounces across the counter. had a few choice words with him informing him what a ****ing idiot he was as he just had it pointed at my chest in rock-n-roll mode with his finger on the trigger. He sulked out.

Two weeks later he got a job with the local sheriffs office. (His parents had previously paid his way through police academy). 1 week after that I hear he has been fired. What first set off warning signs with the SO was when he was issued a gun he asked if they "had a gun he could carry that had killed somone" After this he was on thin ice. Turns out he was posting adds on craigslist pretending to be the father of a mentally disabled 20+ year old son in need of a baby sitter. He would have women come over to his house to baby sit him wearing a ****ing diaper and have them feed and change him when he soiled himself. He got caught when one baby sitter agreed to have the son dropped off at her house and watch him there. He drove himself to her house and changed into a diaper in her driveway. He's a registered sex offender now.

Second instance was... surprise!! Another wanna be cop/security guard. Came in with a Garand, a few ammo cans of 30-06 and some accessories to sell. Starts swinging said garand around and talking about how well he took care of it and what great shape it was in. He had it pointed at my boss's chest while talking to him and I came over to clear the weapon. It gets pointed at my chest. I snatch weapon out of his hands and pull the op-rod back. Guess what flies in the air and rolls into the floor. I look down into the magazine and see 7 more shiny brass thingies, eject the clip and completely lose my ****ing mind. I don't even want to imagine what a 30-06 round will do to a mans chest a foot away.
The absolute stupidest one was a young lady whose boyfriend took her in the range to teach her to shoot. They rented a Ruger Mk. II. I was working the cash register when they came out, which gave me a sideways view of them.

She slams the range door into the wall so it makes a good crash. She jumps into the store and crouches when she lands. She raises the Ruger with both hands and starts aiming it at the backs of the other customers, mimicking firing and recoil. The sound of live fire is coming from the range. She had a big, stupid grin on her face. Fortunately, I could see that the bolt was locked back on the pistol, and her boyfriend ripped it out of her hands pretty quickly. If anyone had turned around and shot her, it would have been totally justified.
I once found a whole batch of brass on the range that were marked .357 SIG, but necked out to .40 upon firing...guess that's cheaper than buying the conversion barrel, I suppose.

Looking down loaded barrels doesn't instill much of an emotional reaction in me anymore. It's fairly rare, and quickly corrected. I did physically rip a revolver out of a customer's hands a few weeks ago for attempting a 73rd trimester abortion. He was attempting to unload a single-action .22LR revolver while standing directly behind his son (obliviously shooting away in his own stall), muzzle held about six inches behind the son's kidneys. Finger on trigger, and shells visible in the cylinder. And pulling on the trigger to try to get them out...

He was mad...****'em.
 

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This was a few years ago and I didn't witness it but they were having a garage sale across the street from my buddy's house and they had an M1 Carbine that they were trying to sell. It was from the old man who had recently passed away. The idiot son and his friends were playing with it, magazine was inserted. etc., they were cycling the bolt and pointing it at each other, at the neighbors houses, etc, and dry firing it. My buddy goes over and grabs it from the one idiot and asks how much they want as he was going to buy it just to keep it out of their ignorant hands. He then drops the mag and it is fully loaded:eek:. He shows the idiots and tells them that they were only alive because of the cosmoline had jammed up the mag and prevented it from loading a round. I think he paid $40 for it and kept it for 30 years before giving it to another buddy.
 

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The owner of my local gun shop tried to tell me that I could shoot 5.56 out of my ar15 that has a 223 stamped barrel!! Witch if ur barrel is stamped 556 u can shoot both 223 or 556 but if ur ar is stamped 223 u can not shoot 556.. So he continue to act like he was right untill I pulled out my iPhone an googled it. His face turned red cause he then realized he was Wrong an there was a line of people behind me so I'm sure he felt like a *** lol...
 

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This was a few years ago and I didn't witness it but they were having a garage sale across the street from my buddy's house and they had an M1 Carbine that they were trying to sell. It was from the old man who had recently passed away. The idiot son and his friends were playing with it, magazine was inserted. etc., they were cycling the bolt and pointing it at each other, at the neighbors houses, etc, and dry firing it. My buddy goes over and grabs it from the one idiot and asks how much they want as he was going to buy it just to keep it out of their ignorant hands. He then drops the mag and it is fully loaded:eek:. He shows the idiots and tells them that they were only alive because of the cosmoline had jammed up the mag and prevented it from loading a round. I think he paid $40 for it and kept it for 30 years before giving it to another buddy.
Thats scary, thats part of the reason that so many people die. There careless and messing around too much.
 

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I'll 'fess up. I was a stupid customer once.

My friends wife had an old Baretta pistol from like '54 or something. It had "9" stamped on the side. So I go to the indoor range, buy a box of 9mm rounds, and try to load the mag, but the bullets were too long to load. The gun shop had sold me non jacketed, lead bullets, which I've never used. I go tell the guy the bullets are ****ed up, and too long. Without even looking or blinking, the guy says "you need .380."

Yeah, well, what the hell does he know, right?

I grumble, go back and get the gun, bring it to him. "Look, 9, right here. Your box of bullets are messed up, man."

He looks at me and says, "Dude...this is a .380. I didn't even need to look at it to tell you that."

I look at him and say, "Yeah, well I suffer from a condition in where I'm ****ing retarded."

I felt like a maroon.
 

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Is anyone really surprised considering most people’s ‘knowledge’ of firearms comes from TV & movies?

Absolutely there are many stupid people with firearms, but I think it’s mostly ignorance. I know some here will consider this an infringement, but I believe some proof of knowing & understanding the rules of firearm safety should be required. At the very least, some form of the rules could be conspicuously posted in the gun shops. I.e.; DON'T put your finger on the trigger. DON'T aim the gun at anybody. DON'T wave the gun around in front of people, etc. Something simple and easily read to let people who don't know any better what the minimum standards of gun handling are.
 

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Is anyone really surprised considering most people’s ‘knowledge’ of firearms comes from TV & movies?

Absolutely there are many stupid people with firearms, but I think it’s mostly ignorance. I know some here will consider this an infringement, but I believe some proof of knowing & understanding the rules of firearm safety should be required. At the very least, some form of the rules could be conspicuously posted in the gun shops. I.e.; DON'T put your finger on the trigger. DON'T aim the gun at anybody. DON'T wave the gun around in front of people, etc. Something simple and easily read to let people who don't know any better what the minimum standards of gun handling are.
I think thats a reasonable request.
 

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I'll 'fess up. I was a stupid customer once.

My friends wife had an old Baretta pistol from like '54 or something. It had "9" stamped on the side. So I go to the indoor range, buy a box of 9mm rounds, and try to load the mag, but the bullets were too long to load. The gun shop had sold me non jacketed, lead bullets, which I've never used. I go tell the guy the bullets are ****ed up, and too long. Without even looking or blinking, the guy says "you need .380."

Yeah, well, what the hell does he know, right?

I grumble, go back and get the gun, bring it to him. "Look, 9, right here. Your box of bullets are messed up, man."

He looks at me and says, "Dude...this is a .380. I didn't even need to look at it to tell you that."

I look at him and say, "Yeah, well I suffer from a condition in where I'm ****ing retarded."

I felt like a maroon.
First time I shot a revolver I was kinda nervous and when I had fired the 6 I kept pulling the trigger I thought that something was wrong because I could still see bullets in the gun lol. Plus when I go to the range I get so excited sometimes I'm not paying attention.
 

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The PNW must be a fairly enlightened gun culture because I've never seen anything like these stories in our gun stores.

I have seen my share of stupidity at public ranges but that's another thread.

Tack
 

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My local Cabelas has trigger locks on all the long guns tba people can access. Still makes me nervous when people shoulder a gun an point in my direction. One kid did it right next to me and I knocked it aside. Kid got pissy with me and I just told him the rules and stressed that accidents do happen.

Even at the lgs, I can't count how many times I've been swept, even had someone dry fire in my direction. Whenever I'm looking I check the condition even if the guy behind the counter did it.
 

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I've seen a lot of crazy stuff in gun stores. I guess one if the worst was at gander mountain. I was on the other side if the counter from this guy who walked up to the sales associate with a cased long gun of some sort. He wasn't sure of the guns caliber so he brought it in to get some information on it. Several minutes late I noticed the sales associate set a box of ammo up on the counter and then walked off. To my amazement the guy opens the ammo and proceeds to load a round in this rifle right there at the counter!!! Needless to say everybody freaked out and the guy was escorted out of the store. I also witnessed a guy dry fire a PSE bow not once but twice in a local archery shop a few years ago!!!
 
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