Ok I am walmart checking ammo supplies. Two guys are standing there and one is explaining this "new super deadly round where the bullet tip is flat". The one guys says these are flat. Open the box man lets see. No thats not them they are flat with the case thing. I say that is called a wadcutter and is used in revolver comps they are designed to cut nice clean holes in the targets so the scoring is easier. No man no these are so deadly that normal people are not supposed to have. I got some from a buddy of mine who is SWAT. I said no they are not SD rounds they are target rounds. The guy starts to get mad so I shut up and leave. Good god man I just gave you some very good information and you turn around and make an ass hat out yourself.