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Discussion in 'Auto & Semi-Auto Discussion' started by robocop10mm, Sep 2, 2013.

  1. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    For you "Name that gun" players and watchers of Strike Back on Cinemax;

    In season 3 there is a rifle that has me stumped. Obvious Czech lineage PDW sized rifle. Receiver has the lines of a Vz-58, but MUCH smaller. Stanag magazine obviously in 5.56mm. What say you?
     
  2. MisterMcCool

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  3. Jagermeister

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    If you can capture a pic, I will ask my gunsmith. Or, I am very familiar with rifles from this side of the pond.
     
  4. MisterMcCool

    MisterMcCool Well-Known Member Supporter

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    This one?
     

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  5. Jagermeister

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    CZ makes an AK too. High quality and slimmer on the furniture. Maybe a CZ.
     
  6. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Top pic is an AK varient. The bottom pic is a Vz-58. They were featured quite extensively in season 2. This one has the same receiver lines and charging handle of the Vz-58, but is obviously using a mag from an M-16.

    Very small platform, short barrel. Like a PDW type gun.
     
  7. robocop10mm

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    The gun on the right;
     

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  8. Jagermeister

    Jagermeister New Member

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    Yep, CZ. There is a mention of a...
    Útočná puška ("assault rifle") ÚP-Z 70: Experimental 5.56×45mm NATO version developed in 1970.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vz._58

    CZ makes a tactical "black rifle" for their AKs
     
  9. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Yes, I saw that. No pic and the size would not have been in line with the doctrine of 1970. This size gun would be more of a 90's thing
     
  10. Jagermeister

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    I do not have my CZ catalog from the Czech factory anymore, but they had a tactical AK that look just like the one in your picture. It would make since for these Eastern European countries to start making NATO round rifles.
     
  11. Jagermeister

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    Actually, that would be a nice gun for lawmen like yourself.
     
  12. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Nope. That's not it

    Don't mean to sound condescending, but the Czech Vz-58 is NOT an AK. Similar in concept, but very different in function. Is even striker fired instead of hammer fired. Mags do not interchange either.

    Look at the top of the receiver. Very different. Vz-58's are also milled insead of stamped.

    That "little" thing from the TV show would just look silly in my hands. I make an HK-91 looks small.
     
  13. sbeezy

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    Google 9a-91 avtomat.
     

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    Looks pretty similar.
     
  15. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Nope. Still has the distinctive AK design. Front sight is wrong. Mag is wrong. The Vz lineage is unmistakable
     
  16. sbeezy

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    Just googles vz 58 compact 5.56 and this picture popped up
     
  17. sbeezy

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    Didn't upload in last post. Looks like that's your gun.
     

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  18. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    DINIG DING DING! I believe we have a winner. Unfortuanely the gun is not importable
     
  19. Jagermeister

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    Wait a sec, if the 91 is small on you, what rifle do you use while on duty? :confused: Also, do you go to a tree surgeon when you need a hair cut?:D Sorry, could not help it.:eek:


    ......Yes, I am amazed that I have never been arrested.....I can be a smart ***. I have an Italian mother.:eek: