Stuck in Ma..which 1911?

Discussion in '1911 Forum' started by MaJeeper, Aug 31, 2008.

  1. MaJeeper

    MaJeeper New Member

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    Hi all,

    I live in Ma (I know..I know). Im very, very restricted on what handguns I can own. I would like to buy a 1911 style pistol. My choices are limited to certain makers/models. I can get a couple of Para's, Some S&W and a couple of Sigs.

    I CANT get Kimber, Springfield, Colt, Glock, no customs like Les Baer, Nighthawk..etc. What manufacturer should I look to first. I know its a vague question, but I guess im just looking for recommendations to manufacturer. Thanks in advance.

    Sean
    Massachusetts
     
  2. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    First off, welcome to the Forum.

    Now, I am not familiar with the laws in your part of the country, but it sounds like you are living in occupied terror-tory. For that, you have my condolences, but we have several members here living behind enemy lines, so you are not alone.

    Now, I am unclear as you why you can only by certain 1911 makers. :confused:

    Are certain makers "outlawed" - or do you need a Maine Compliant version from any manufacturer.

    As an example, recently an Ed Brown Special Forces Edition 1911 came up for sale at a very good price. One of the members was interested, but he lives in Kalifornia. As it was not a Kali-Compliant gun, he was unable to take advantage of it.

    Is this the situation you are faced with?

    Please explain. yes, I could look up the laws in your area, but quite frankly it's Sunday on a long weekend and I am feeling more than a bit lazy. :p

    JD
     

  3. dragunovsks

    dragunovsks New Member

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    I would check out a Rock Island Armory 1911. I bought mine for $300 used. It not as nice as some of the more expensive and more well known 1911 variants out there but it's pretty wallet freindly. Mine is an A1, which is the same basic version that our boys carried in WWII and Veitnam.

    It's reliable, durable and in the right hands it's accurate. I need some practice with it but can't afford much ammo right now, but otherwise I love it. I normally use the cheapest FMJ's I can find for target practice and for personal protection I use either Georgia Arms hollow points or Federal Hydrashox.
     
  4. BigO01

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    Sorry to hear you're living behind one of the Democrat party's "Iron Curtains" , if you're a first time handgun owner I always suggest a nice double action revolver if not well of the 1911's you mention any of them will do the job .

    I hear S&W is turning out a real fine 1911 despite that it has an external extractor and their revolvers are of course always an excellent choice .

    Para is also a reported quality product and the only double stack 1911 that really gets my interest .

    Best of luck
     
  5. JPBeck

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    The Para is a nice pistol, I have one and it's a very reliable weapon. However, my next 1911 will be a Sig 1911. Go handle both and pick the one that calls to you. You can't go wrong with either one.
     
  6. MaJeeper

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    Hi guys,

    Thanks for the replies. To answer some of your questions. I have owned firearms since 1989, so im not really a newbie. I have owned S&W 5906 (pre-94 Massachusetts Hi-Capacity crap) a S&W 442, 629, Airweight, Colt Python..and some others. Ive never had a 1911 style, and want one. I just have a couple Smith revolvers now.

    The laws in Massachusetts are strict as to manufacturers because it is required that they submit guns and ammo for drop tests, trigger pull..etc..etc. Most manufacturers wont even submit guns to Ma. They say the laws are too confusing/strict and rediculous. Many, just say "Thanks, but no thanks, we dont need your business".

    As a "class A" firearms license owner, I can purchase, posses and carry concealed just about any firearm, prior to 1994. Any firearm Post '94 has to be approved on TWO rosters within the state. Its messed up because on one roster, it will be compliant, but the other it isnt. So, the firearm has to appear as compliant on BOTH rosters.

    Also, They cannot have less than a 10lb TP, No more than 10 RNDs, Must pass a substansial drop test...etc.

    To purchase a Pre-94 firearm with "high cap", I believe it has had to always been registered in the state of Ma. since before the new laws. Im not definate on that, but im fairly certain. The laws are just so confusing.

    Only a few manufacturers will even submit guns to Ma..therefore, not on the approved roster...therefore...I CANNOT OWN. I HATE this state. This is a communist/So******t state, thanks to these three boobs. John Kerry, Ted Kennedy and Patrick Duval. Start there. So, basically im limited to "some" Paras, "some" Smiths and 2 or 3 sigs. Only a few from each man. are legal/compliant in Ma.

    Thanks Again.
    Sean
     
  7. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    Given that criteria, and what you have access too - I have to agree with JP Beck and say the Sig would be my first choice. The Sig 1911 isn't cheap, but it's a nice piece of gear that is well built and will do the job. Not that the others won't but I feel the Sig is the best of the choices you have access too....

    Sorry to hear about your misfortunes in Occupied Terror-Tory.

    Best of luck!

    JD
     
  8. jeepcreep927

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    Holy Jeezuz! I had no idea that Mass was THAT strict. But we all know that Ted Kennedy knows how to better institute safety requirements than the manufacturers. You'd think he'd require any car sold in Mass be buoyant, and all livers immune to alcohol.

    You oughta move a few miles north to the the Green Mountain state, and own whatever you want. Good luck in the search man.
     
  9. MaJeeper

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    Thanks Guys,

    Actually, NH is my next move. Unfortunately, I have to wait till the housing market levels out so I can sell. NH is the Live Free or Die state, and its 5 min from my front door. :( Thats how close I am to freedom. Thanks for all your condolences too!! Take Care. PS: Good One JeepCreep
     
  10. BigO01

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    Jeep you musta missed or have forgotten when Dukakis ran for President , they played a clip of when he was Governor of Massachusetts refusing to give a pardon to a man who shot an armed intruder in his home while his minor children were also in the home .

    In the clip Dukakis bellows " But HE broke the LAW" which according to Mass is being a law abiding citizen in your home and daring to effectively defend yourself .

    I swear I think if "The terrorists" nuked everything east of Virginia they would be doing us a huge favor .
     
  11. MaJeeper

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    Well, Mass anyway..Nevermind the politics, the people suck too. NH, Maine and VT arent bad. Mass is a whole different universe...bizzaro world.

    Anyway, Just was on Sig's website. No Mass Compliant 1911's...What the heck. Im running out of options. My buddy has a M&P series S&W that I fired. Pretty nice gun. Unfortunately, the 45 cal version of that gun isnt legal in Ma yet. I wanted a full steel gun anyway..but still a nice shooting gun... Especially for the price.

    Take it easy.

    Sean
     
  12. MaJeeper

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    PS: That law in Ma has changed. Castle Law. Now you dont have to flee your home..just be damn sure the intruder is armed...or that there is only one side of the story to tell..either way.
     
  13. monte

    monte New Member

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    you should look up northeast trading and talk to ted he knows all about the laws he also has a very nice selection of 1911's wit double stack mags the other place would be american fire arms school the guys there stuff too i got alot of info about the preban stuff
     
  14. dnthmn2004

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    I hate MA too. Good thing I'm going to be a police officer so I can buy whatever I want. I think. They are so f*cking confusing, I don't even understand them.
     
  15. Roastie

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    If only that were true, the way it's set up is that your Department can purchase and issue certain weapons to you. You will get LEO deals, ie reduced prices, but you still have to follow the list for your own personal purchases.

    PS: I am 5 minutes from NH too, once I am out of school I am out of this state!
     
  16. usr007

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    Actually I have been researching this myself for a while and you can purchase pretty much any 1911 as long as it is in the Republic of Massachusetts and someone is willing to sell it to you following the laws.... you can purchase from a private seller living in the state as long as you both have a valid gun license or from a FFL.

    The roster lists do restrict what gunshops can sell within the state legally, but not for private owner to owner transfers, just gotta find what you want (I'm looking for a springfield or colt myself) on a forum, negotiate sale terms, fill out the necesary forms, and you're set.
     
  17. BILLYBOB44

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    Republic of Massachusetts?

    For the people of Mass., I guess you get what you VOTE for. Why have sane voters continued to put these Commies in (and back in) office?? How many terms has Ted Kenn. been voted back in , after he drowned that young gal, and just walked away from it? The SOB should have done HARD TIME for that.Again you get what you VOTE for!!:eek::eek:
     
  18. Dillinger

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    Her name was MARY JO KOPECHNE and she was 8 days shy of her 29th birthday.

    I highly doubt her family has forgotten and I don't think we should either.

    Ted Kennedy deserves all the pain that cancer, and Hell in the afterlife, will provide.

    JD
     
  19. cpttango30

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    JD i have to give you a big thumbs up on that one. images.jpeg