stubborn dog problem

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by Harland, Jun 21, 2010.

  1. Harland

    Harland New Member

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    Just to put it simply my three year old beagle mix (female, fixed) likes to come into her masters room any time she wants. because i have a folding door it does not take much for her to gain entry, she ruined my old door and i just had a new one put on yesterday (last one had slits from were she had cut it and everything, new one is more heavy duty). if she does get it i tell her "out" and she will leave, though within 5 min. she will attempt to get back in.
    I do not care if she comes in while the door is open, just when it is shut i expect her to know to keep out.

    any suggestions on this?
     
  2. Pat-inCO

    Pat-inCO New Member

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    A rolled up newspaper works well. Doesn't hurt the dog but does sound like it would.

    If that doesn't work, trade it in.
     

  3. Benning Boy

    Benning Boy New Member

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    Accept the fact that she is a sentient being, and only allows you to believe that you're running the house, because it amuses her.
     
  4. cbw

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    Close the door with you on the inside and her out. Wait untiil she starts to try to open it, then in a strong voice tall her no. You will have to do this several times, when she stops, reward her with a treat and tell her how good she is. Dogs really want to please their masters, we just are not good at communicating with them. No need to hit her, she will not understand why she is being hit, no matter what you hit her with.
     
  5. suprdave

    suprdave New Member

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    This, and you could try one of those baby gates to block her from getting to the door.
     
  6. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

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    Really beat your dog. You haven't trained many dogs have you? I don't care if you think it doesn't hurt. That has been proven over and over again that the use of "Scare" or punishment training doesn't work as good as reward training. Positive reinforcement is the key to training a good dog. I can teach my dog to do thing is as little as 1 or 2 days if I stay on it and I don't need to beat her into submission.

    Simple thing is leave the door open. My dog is allowed to go where ever she wants. When we are not home we close doors and use a baby gate.

    Sounds like you need to take her to some classes and learn the simple stuff first. I would not go to petsmart but find a facility that offers classes in your area. Sit, stay, heal, come, off, down, bed are what she needs to learn first.

    A Lot of people confuse off and down. I tell her down if I want her to lay down I tell her off if i want her off of something or someone.
     
  7. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    Maybe the pup is lonely; get it a stuffed animal friend or a companion.
     
  8. Glasshartt

    Glasshartt New Member

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    Tango has hit it on the head, dogs are basically pack animals who want to please the "Alpha" of the pack (read owner). She wants to be by you to please you. Repetition is the best way, not beating, they do not undertand the use of force against them. Training dogs is alot like training children. Patience and Repetition. Baby gates are great if you have an area where you don't want the dog to go into. They make some that have a framework and swing like a half-door so that you do not have to step over it. The main thing is continuity. If you don't want the dog to go somewhere, or do something, don't let him/her do/go sometimes and then get mad sometimes when they do the same thing.
     
  9. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    I don't know enough to know I am in over my head when it comes to actually "training" a dog - but I have learned a lot of stuff the hard way.

    I have two Germans, the boy is about 110# and the girl is growing fast and is probably around 60#.

    Needless to say, when they want something, they are a handful until they get it. And it doesn't matter if it's outside, in my lap when I am trying to type on the forum or just dinner. They are VERY persuasive.

    Anyways, I was looking for some help in getting them to behave a little better and believe it or not, I found from that Caeser/Dog whisperer fruitloop. I personally can't stand the guy and think he is making gazillions of dollars doing what anybody that surrounded themselves with dogs for 24 hours a day could do. :rolleyes:

    I was channel surfing and saw he was talking to a guy with a Mastiff and the dog had some traits that were far worse than mine were, so I was intrigued.

    He was saying that a lot of times dogs will go against their commands to get attention, even if it's negative attention. One of the ways to counter that is to exercise them regularly, with you, so they get that bonding, but also get tired.

    We started a strict regime of every morning we play fetch with the dogs before we leave for work. When I get home first during the week, I play fetch with them. When the lady comes home about 50% of the time she plays with them, then before bed we both play fetch with them.

    Every session takes about 10 or 15 minutes, but the dogs are running the whole time and they get exhausted.

    We have been doing this for about 2 months now, almost every day, and the dogs have been a lot better. No more chewing on stuff, no more being bad for the sake of being bad. They listen much better than before, though they are hardly ready for any competitions, and they are generally better mannered.

    This weekend was a classic example of the opposite. It was raining, cold and miserable, so neither of us wanted to take them out on Saturday morning. We had got up later than normal, fed them and turned on the fireplace. Sure enough, dogs running amock and being a pain in the ***.

    20 minutes in the rain later, they were asleep on the foor and happiness was restored.

    Odd as it sounds, playing fetch was WAY better for them than nightly walks on the leash and it truly worked for my two.

    Good luck.

    JD
     
  10. Jo da Plumbr

    Jo da Plumbr New Member

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    Is the dog getting enough excursive? Field dogs like a beagle need plenty of time running with the pack. (That’s you and your family) Have you done any other training? Sit, stay, come, and heal. Training basic commands like this are the start to getting a dog to understand and obey more complicated behavior modifications. Understand a dog is a social animal that wants to be with it's pack. They do not like to be alone. If they are lonely dogs will misbehave to get your attention even if that attention is anger.

    Exercise, discipline (not beating) and affection are the keys to having a well behaved dog.
     
  11. robocop10mm

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    I have had good luck with a squirt bottle filled with water. When they commit the infraction spray them in the face repeatedly. They do not like that, but it certainly does not hurt them.

    Really, an insecure dog will try to stay close to the alpha for safety and security. I have a 130# mastiff that WILL NOT spend more than one minute away from my wife. She must be in his view anytime she is home. Once she is in bed for the night, he will settle in and sleep like a log. If she gets up, there he is following her like a lost puppy. He will cry like a little biotch if he gets locked out of the room, but will take a chunk out of anyone that tries to get too close to her. Our dogs are all rescues. We try to take into consideration the mistreatment they must have endured in their pasts. They have it good now and do not want the savior to get away.
     
  12. bizy

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    Good Idea

    CBW sounds like you know about training pets. You are correct about praising a good behavior.

    I had a dog training business for many years. "Have A Heart Kennel".. Y ou must catch your dog thinking about or while doing it if you want a scolding to work. Beating the crap out of a dog after the fact only works if your dog is psychic.. "YOU" will need alot of training if you want your dog to read your mind.

    Leave the door cracked open just a little, when you see her starting to come in, yell with athority "NO". You will need to do this many times to get the idea across. Or you can use a colored towel, rag, cloth, ribbon on the door when you do not want her to come in. For the first few times you will need to correct her. Use the rag trick when you say "NO", after a while whe will know the colored rag means no pets. Every dog is different just the same as kids, the same as shooting a gun, no 2 people shoot the same. No 2 dogs train the same.

    Good luck with the pooch..
     
  13. Harland

    Harland New Member

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    I think shes starting to get the hang of it. Thanks for the advice guys.
     
  14. TheDaggle

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    Because dogs are like shirts, right? If they don't fit, you just take 'em back and get a different one?
     
  15. willfully armed

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    ive found that the stubborn ones respond to electricity very well.
     
  16. billdeserthills

    billdeserthills New Member

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    I think it is too bad that you hafta live in an old refrigerator box
     
  17. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    Every time the pup is uncooperative, think to yourself "at least i didn't get a cat". :D