stoeger cougar 8000 help!!!!!!!!!!!

Discussion in 'Semi-Auto Handguns' started by chad2, Oct 3, 2010.

  1. chad2

    chad2 New Member

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    ok i am getting a stoeger cougar dispite what a few people have said. i got it to get into idpa competition shooting. so now i need to know some things is there a company that makes or will customize parts for this gun? what i mean by customize is can i send my origanl barrel/parts and they be able to make me a match grade barrel/parts. is there a company that does this? also is there anything that i can do to this gun to clean it up and smooth it out? i am very mechanically inclined i have lots of tools, including knife making tools, i make knives in my off time. i know that there is the beretta d spring that brings the trigger pull down in weight. i think the trigger is amazing but i would like to get ride of some of the take up on the trigger. is ther a company that makes something that will do this or can i have someone make me a custom trigger. also i know that the cougar and the 92 frames look alot alike besides the grip, are there parts interchangable, like are there triggers made the same way? can a custom trigger for a 92 be fitted into a cougar 8000? thank you for taking your time to read this.
     
  2. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Chad, Don't change anything until you have enough experience to identify what needs to be changed.

    You have a warranty that is null and void should any mods be made. Run the gun through a few competitions first.

    Save the money and buy ammo to practice with. I've seen too many people start mods and are wishing that they had not done it.
     
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  3. chad2

    chad2 New Member

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    i know that this might be expensive but is there a company the would be able to make me a steel frame for this gun. maybe i could send them the original frame and they could make a mold of it, and they could make me a steel injected frame.
     
  4. chad2

    chad2 New Member

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    that is a good idea i am going to do that dan :)
     
  5. Neophyte1

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    Follow up

    chad2; Sir, keep a ''running'' account with your shooting :) follow up as you can; :) with all the details :) yeeee- hiiiii type thoughts
     
  6. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Anything is possible for the right amount. Practice the heck out of that gun, wear it out, then look for the next one. The experience gained will be well worth it.

    If a pro competitor keeps a gun for 6 months, he / she is lucky.
     
  7. NGIB

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    IDPA is not bullseye shooting and is setup around folks using their carry guns - pinpoint accuracy is not as important as putting decent hits on man-sized targets in quick time. You need to quit worrying about making the Cougar into something it isn't and just enjoy shooting the thing. I highly suggest you actually read & heed the advice we're trying to give you as some of us have been around the block a few times.

    Just so you know, having a custom steel frame made up for your $400 gun would probably cost you 10-20 times what the gun costs - if you could find a shop that would even take on the job.

    Relax, read, and learn...
     
  8. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    Customizing a Stoeger?

    Isn't that kind of like making a limousine out of a Ford F-150?

    An F-150 is a fine vehicle for what it's made for, but it's not made for a limousine.
     
  9. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    Just when you think you got it nailed, someone will out-do even the dumbest of ideas!
     

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  10. M14sRock

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    Chd, I applaud your enthusiasm! And I've heard good things about the Stoeger Cougar.

    Start off by shooting it enough to "become one" with it. The pistol was designed to operate a certain way, and until you have a ton of trigger time behind it, you may not fully understand what you want to do to it.

    As for the barrel, it is going to give you combat accuracy as is. To change up to something like a Bar-Sto will cost you $300-$450 when you factor in the fitting costs. And it will not be as reliable as the stock barrel, due to tighter match grade tolerances.

    Get some trigger work done, and have some good sights installed if you feel the need to start work.

    But before you have any work done shoot the snot out of it.
     
  11. Gatekeeper

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    ............and get an IDPA rulebook(if that is what you want to shoot) and make sure any mods you do will still be competition legal in your division.
     
  12. 407Rebel

    407Rebel New Member

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    Chad, I think you will like the Cougar alot. Take it to the range and put some lead down range. Fire it and see what works and what doesn't. I just bought a Coug and couldn't be happier. Best bargain in the market IMHO.
     
  13. chad2

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    from david olhasso !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    this is my email to david olhasso a competition shooter champion who used to shot for beretta.

    (ME)
    i am looking to get into idpa comps. i shoot every other week and i am getting a stoeger cougar i like the trigger and it seems to be a really good gun. i have heard that you shoot idpa with a stoeger cougar or did, what did you have done to you cougar or what should i do to it before getting into idpa? also how did the aluminum frame hold up to wear and tear?

    also why did you like this gun? i have my reasons but what was yours please contact me at chad.stenger@navy.mil

    this is his answer.

    (DAVID OLHASSO)
    When I shot for beretta, I thought the cougar was the best gun in their lineup. Unfortunately, beretta never supported the gun properly and they never made a 5" version of the gun. The rotating barrel is much more accurate than the 92/90-two variants and is a very good platform. Again, unfortunately, with such a short barrel, it is not at all ideal for competition at the highest level. When competing, I use a 5" barreled gun which give me the best possible accuracy potential due to the longer sight radius. Yes the cougar is more accurate, but with such a short sight picture, it is harder for the shooter to be accurate enough under stress.

    As for the aluminum frame: it is made from the same aluminium that is an integral part of the M9 and M9A1 that have been used by the armed forces since 86. There are some shortcoming to the 92, but the frame is definitely not one.
     
  14. M14sRock

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    Excellent. Looks like you will be very happy with your Cougar.
     
  15. Dillinger

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    I'm lost. :eek:

    When I read "David"s response, it would appear that he was saying the Cougar was a good weapon, but lacked the desired 5" sight radius which he prefers. :confused:

    Best of luck with whatever you choose chad2. I hope whatever you get is the perfect gun for you and you shoot the daylights out of it.

    JD

    PS - Huh. A 5" long barrel wth a frame that features a long sight radius. Where have I heard that kind of talk before?? :eek::cool:
     
  16. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    I would like to know how Chad2 places in competition with the setup he has.