Steel-Cased Ammo?

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by gunsgunsandmoreguns, May 21, 2007.

  1. gunsgunsandmoreguns

    gunsgunsandmoreguns New Member

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    Some say it's a big no-no, others do it all the time.

    I hope this hasn't been beat to death, but I shoot steel cased Russian stuff in my Colt. No ill effects as of yet.

    What's everyone else's thoughts on this?
     
  2. bkt

    bkt New Member

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    I've read enough stories about mishaps with Russian stuff that I stay away from it. It may actually work fine, but prices for decent ammo aren't so high that I'm willing to mess around.

    Reports are it's dirty, so you will be spending more time cleaning. Some ammo has a lacquer coating that comes off in the chamber. People reported screwing up their extractor because a casing got stuck. FTF/FTEs are reportedly common.

    This could all be nonsense -- I have no first-hand experience.

    Wolf works fine in an AK (WASR) or SKS probably because these rifles have a little more play and a higher tolerance for variances.
     

  3. RONSERESURPLUS

    RONSERESURPLUS New Member

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    Steel Cased ammo?

    Hello all


    Ron L here = SERESURPLUS


    I've really only used it in my COMBLOC items LIke an AK clone and an SKS, never any issue or Problem! I did see one yonger fellow with a COLT H Bar and an CAR-15, He had all sorts of Jams and Sticking cases in the chamber and I've heard that from others as well! The Polimer Coated stuff even worse,! I've not had an Issue, can only say what5 I did and what I saw?




    RON
     
  4. 45_Storm

    45_Storm New Member

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    I recently purchased a Glock 27 for my wife from a friend, and he gave me approx 500 rounds of Wolf ammo with it. I've heard the same things about the steel cases wearing out/breaking parts over time and how dirty it is to shoot. I have to admit that it is very dirty, and seems to be all over the place as far as accuracy (I cleaned thee weapon very thouroughly and returned to the range with a box of Federal, and saw much better performance at the same distances). I didn't have any jaming issues with the Wolf ammo, just (percieved) accuracy issues.
     
  5. guns4fun

    guns4fun New Member

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    With .223 ammo prices going up every day, I bought some wolf MC poly coat to try out. I went through 1/2 a case now and have had no problems. It is under powered and not as accurate as xm193 but it is fine for plinking. I will be buying more.
     
  6. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Wolf in a Colt

    IF I were hard up I MIGHT shoot some wolf through my AR's. Some being the operative term. NEVER allow wolf to sit in a hot chamber, Period. The laquer will stick to the chamber walls and cause problems. Life is too short to shoot crappy ammo.
     
  7. Subgun Ordnance

    Subgun Ordnance New Member

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    I use Wolf ,Silver Bear with no problems they are run through UZIs and MACs
    They eat anything

    Later Joe
     
  8. BrassMonkey

    BrassMonkey New Member Supporter

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    I avoid steel cased ammo in pistols (the only problems I have encountered with steel is in pistol ammo). I shoot Wolf exclusivley in my AK. I use it for plinking ammo in my ARs. Its dirty and hard on extractors, but the savings over brass for plinking will buy a lot of extractors and brushes.

    I have never seen an example of this. You can hold a maap gas torch to a Wolf Poly case, and not soften the coating so I doubt your chamber will get hot enough to do so.
     
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  9. BLS33

    BLS33 New Member Supporter

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    The myth about Wolf and other similar steel cased ammo is that it will wear your gun out quicker because the steel is much harder then brass. Well yes hardened steel would definetly do some damage but this is soft steel, as soft as brass. It is no doubt dirty, but any ammo will cause rust and corrosion if you store the gun without cleaning it, you may just have to clean it better and quicker. The reason Wolf has less ejection velocity and jams from time to time is from the green laquer coating and bullet sealant. I've been told that Wolf no longer uses the red type of sealant and now uses a polymer coating which has cut down on jams. I've only used the older Wolf which may have spawned my dislike for it. But it is safe for your gun and great for plinking because of how cheap it is.
     
  10. DWARREN123

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    I have run it thru my Mini-14 and Mini-30, most not that accurate but some is okay. For the price if it works for you go for it.
     
  11. Draco

    Draco New Member

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    My bolt action 30.06 shooting the green steel Barnaul ammo with the red sealant will cause a FTE from 5% of the time(a great day), to 100% of the time (every round requires extraction-a not so great day).

    I have been told this is due to the lacquer breaking down and re-solidifying, essentially gluing the bolt shut. It takes alot of muscle to force it back open, sometimes I have had to use a rubber mallet to force it open!

    It's pretty much the same stuff as Wolf (I seldom had a problem with their 7.62-but the same thing happens, but you get FTF as well with semi-auto), but in my experience the Russian stuff does indeed cause FTE.