The more I read about justifications for concealed carry (or open carry) by LACs, the more I am puzzled by the absence of some obvious statistics. The statistic that I think would be most enlightening is this: Number of Injuries to Innocent Bystanders (ITIB). It should probably be evaluated per capita of the group in question: LEOs, LACs, or BGs. A BG walks into QuikTrip and demands money at gunpoint. Someone screams and the BG freaks. He shoots at the scream, wounding the person. That's 1 ITIB. He shoots again and hits the same person. That's 2 ITIB. He shoots again and hits someone else. That's 3 ITIB. A good guy is in said QuikTrip, draws his CCW and shoots the BG, twice. That's 2 injuries, but not to an innocent bystander. He misses once and hits someone else. That's 1 ITIB. OK, so that's a made up example to illustrate the meaning of Injury to Innocent Bystander (ITIB). 6 hits in 6 shots, all by amateurs, unlikely at best, but it does define the concept pretty clearly. Why do I not see a statistic like this being quoted? By anyone? I think we all assume that a law abiding, CCW permit holder practices enough to hit what he aims at, and therefore does not cause many ITIBs. We also assume that the BGs never go to the range, can't shoot for $hit, and cause a lot of ITIBs. If those assumptions are true (and I wish that was provable), then the pro-2A folks should be beating that drum LOUDLY!!! If those assumptions are false, then the anti-gun crowd should be beating the drum. (Pause while we listen to the collective silence...sigh) How can such statistics be obtained? There actually seem to be 3 classes of people for whom such statistics are needed. LEOs, LACs, and BGs. Seems like any time there is a person injured or killed by gunfire there should be a police report. Are such police reports a matter of public record? Do the police keep track of such statistics? Can such statistics be obtained through Freedome of Information Act requests? For the record, I am very much in the pro-2A crowd. I hope that statistics like the ITIB described here would help counter the claim by anti-gun people that civilians with guns are inherently dangerous to innocent bystanders. If such statistics are developed objectively (not manipulated by agenda-driven parties on either side!), they will help the situation even if they do NOT show LACs to be substantially safer than BGs. If LACs are not safer than BGs, they should be. Instead of removing guns from LACs, train them to use them properly. IMPO, training of LACs to use guns properly and effectively is a legitimate part of the "well regulated Militia" that we who bear arms are presumed to form. OK, I have my Kevlar/Nomex undies on, let the firestorm begin!!!