Starting up.. need some direction!

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by greyg00se19, Aug 5, 2010.

  1. greyg00se19

    greyg00se19 New Member

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    hey guys,

    I joined here because I want an AR, but I'd like to build it myself. At first, I thought it was cheaper, and I spoke with my dad who used to be a huge gun fanatic, and said it's not necessarily cheaper to build it.. which doesn't really make much sense to me.. but so be it.. I still want to get the satisfaction of building it on my own.. I don't really care about the cost, since this is going to be a nice long project for me. I have a general knowledge of guns since I'm military, but not enough to build my own. So where do I start? After reading a bit on here, I know that some people recommend building the lower and purchasing a complete upper for a first time project. So first things first, purchase the lower receiver and work up from there? Or read a book first? I'll definitely be documenting this as I go for other novices like myself.. then maybe I can help someone else with my experiences.. Thanks for any help!
     
  2. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    There are about 5 threads at the top of this section that deal with people doing the exact same thing you are looking at doing.

    If you can assemble a table from Ikea, you can build an AR. The table might actually be harder come to think of it.

    The lower is a piece of cake. Some loudmouthed wannebe did a How To guide on building the lower, it's stickied here also, so I would look that over and order some parts.

    You need to go through an FFL to get your lower receiver, but outside of that, the rest of the stuff can be shipped right to your door.

    You will find that plenty of folks around here started RIGHT where you are now and ended up learning a ton in the process.

    I assume they will be along shortly to egg you on and encourage you. ;)

    JD
     

  3. TheDaggle

    TheDaggle New Member

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    What JD said. There's more information on AR building than you can shake a stick at here. I came along in February, having never considered building ANY kind of firearm, I wasn't sure it was even legal to own an AR here in Kommiefornia. After hanging around, seeing the pics and the tutorials for about fourmonths, I could no longer help myself. I built a 20" LCW/DTI hybrid, and I couldn't be happier with it!
    Go now, young one, and assemble fun rifles. :D
     
  4. greyg00se19

    greyg00se19 New Member

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    i appreciate all of your input.. but still one question remains.. how much money, if any will I be saving on my own build.. the old man always wants to be the end all be all of any advice, he says it won't be any cheaper to build my own.. just to buy one if i want one.. not sure if he thinks i won't be able to do it, or if he's actually right.. input? anyone here who loves to prove the old man wrong knows what i'm talkin about!!
     
  5. BigSe63xy

    BigSe63xy New Member

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    Well I've been searching for parts based on price rather then quality ( I don't shoot much and I can always replace them) and I've come up with a total of $550 for a completely basic rifle. But then you have to factor in the shipping and one FFL transfer. So there is a little money to be saved but not a whole lot. I'm going to search around at local gun stored too so maybe I can save a little on shipping. But another thing to factor in is you can space out your spending so you don't have to put all the money down at once. It's kinda like a layaway in a way.
     
  6. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    Right now CDNN has a S&W flat top that is $699 with a $100 mail in rebate. You really aren't going to be able to assemble a complete gun cheaper than that.

    However, you will be able to assemble a gun with MUCH BETTER parts for around $900-$1000 if you shop around and do some research.

    If the bottom line is cost for a functioning gun, the CDNN deal is going to be difficult to top. If your bottom line is the best gun for the money, you should build one.

    JD
     
  7. bgeddes

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    Congrats on accepting the challenge to build your own. From personal experience, I can tell you it is very rewarding. Another big benefit is the ability to build a 'custom rifle,' of parts you chose for a reason. This brings me to my next point.

    It's been my experience that the parts that come in the lower receiver parts kits are adequate, but far from exceptional. I would urge you to seek a better trigger group for your first build. The difference in the 'bone stock' trigger compared to even a mid range trigger (like a 2 stage RRA) is huge.

    For the first build, buy the upper complete, and hand select the parts for the lower. The gun will be a better final product.

    PS: This upper is a steal:
    http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f20/dpms-ar-15-a3-flattop-upper-assembly-399-99-a-30142/
     
  8. mach1337

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    Good luck on your build. i just ran into a lil bit of money ($350)and am about to start my build... that is if i can find a lower here in kommiefornia... wish me luck... any recommendations are welcome especially from those of you in SD...
     
  9. greyg00se19

    greyg00se19 New Member

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    Well guys, after doing a bit of research, and deciding which direction I'm heading in.. I think I'm just going to get a lower from brownells, (the one from spikes) and a kit. I know some of you would probably go against that, but I'm not a huge hunter, and I probably won't shoot it enough to justify spending extra money on a two stage trigger.. I'm more interested in putting different toys on it.. which makes me want to go with the A4 upper.. and suggestions or recommendations?
     
  10. Quentin

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    I'd look hard at midlength uppers instead of the carbine gas system. Nothing wrong with the latter but middies function real smooth.

    Don't be in a rush to buy, definitely research and compare many uppers then choose the one for you. Same goes for every part you choose to put into your rifle.

    BCM has some extremely high quality uppers in 16" and 14.5" for about $385 without BCG, charging handle and hand guards. They also have blemished complete lowers for $270. A lot of people go with blemished since you save about $90 for a few cosmetic issues that you'll end up doing yourself in a short time to a pristine one. Worth spending some time on their site. A Spikes lower would be fine but there are some recent links here to a $59 stripped lower that would be just as good.

    The standard milspec trigger is fine and probably more reliable so no need for a two stage trigger unless you've compared and like it better. This is one area that's clearly up to you, no need to apologize for choosing what you like.
     
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