Starting my WWI collection, any advice?

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by CharlieWhiskey261, Sep 1, 2012.

  1. CharlieWhiskey261

    CharlieWhiskey261 New Member

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    Hey guys, I am sure there are a bunch of people here feel the same about of military rifles like I do. I love the old milsurp stuff and so I have decided to start my collection buy collection WWI rifles first. I plan to do WWII as well but want to try to stay WWI for now.

    What I have so far:

    British Enfield 303

    Austrian/Hungary Steyr M95

    (I am currently talking to a guy about a Russian Nagant and a Swiss K31)

    What I want to get:

    Russian Nagant

    Swiss K31

    German K98

    Italian Carcano

    What else am I missing? I know theres American rifles out there but most of them are 2-3x what the others are.

    Looking at the list, there seems to be a lot of options for most places, anyone know where to find some of the harder to find rifles? or have their own opinions/preferences on which to take? Seems like the site doesn't have all the options, I know my 1895 Steyr was used by Austria and Hungary throughout WWI and WWII
     
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  3. BillM

    BillM Active Member Supporter

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  4. Trez

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    How 'bout some sorta Arisaka (Types 30, 38, 44), Or theres a Type 1 Carcano, made by Italy for Japan.. The M1917 is a nice rifle, slightly bulkier and heavier than the M1903... That's one of the next on my list (After a IH Garand and a Krag)

    The WWI Gun I want want most is a "Russian" Winchester 1895, but their pretty expensive... :(
     
  5. BillM

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    Other than the mdl 1891, I don't think any of the Carcano's are WWI.
    I know for sure that the type I Arisaka/carcano was late 30's.
     
  6. zaitsev44

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    Here's a WWII gun, the French MAS 36. There's one at my local gun store for $275 in amazing condition.
     
  7. Chainfire

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    A Russian M-1891 dated prior to 1918 would be a good start. $250.00 and almost certainly a war vet as the Russians/Soviets were always chronically short of firearms. If you can find one with a good bore they are also good shooters and ammo is dirt cheap.
     
  8. bridge

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    I have an Rock Island 1903 Springfield made in 1907 and second year production. It's a low serial number gun and was rebar talked in 1942. These are rare guns but I might sell. I also have an octagon Russian Nagant I believe around 1913 I might sell.

    Bryan
     
  9. bridge

    bridge New Member

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    I do have a non import k98 262 in excellent condition. It was a bring home gun and barely used. I also picked up an org ssa dagger mint, 1918 dwm Luger (police version) an a p38 in org holster. All bring homes and no import marks.
     
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  11. BillM

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    You mentioned the Swiss K31 in your original post. That 31 refers to
    1931---I thought you were limiting yourself to WWI for now??:)
     
  12. chuckusaret

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    I have never seen an original 1891. I have a Tula arsenal refinished 1915, and I also have a 1930 and a 1938 Tula's hex receivers.
     
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    I sold a few M91's a few years ago. They are out there.
     
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    I say just go for the US guns!! "Our guns are better than theirs!" :p
    M1903
    M1917 (Rifle or Pistol)
    M1911
    !!!
     
  18. Chainfire

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    The "original" thing has different meanings to different collectors. There are plenty of non-refurbished M-1891 Mosin-Nagants out there. It is difficult to find an all Russian one, but there are plenty of rifles that did service in Serbia, Montenegro, or Bulgaria.

    I have an unrefurbished, 1911 dated, M-1891 that has Russian and Serbian markings on the steel, and the stock was stamped with a WWI German marking (Deutsches Reich mark). You can't be more WWI authentic than that. I paid less that $200.00 for it, last year.
     
  19. Old_Crow

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    Most collectible rifles can be had very cheap. I wouldn't get in a hurry. I would just keep my money in my pocket. Soon as you buy an Enfield in a gun shop for $300, you will find a nicer one at a yard sale for $100. Don't buy a Mosin-Nagant online. Look for one with a hex receiver that has matching serial numbers. I have a 1930 M91. We aren't sure what model. It has a dragoon receiver with M91/30 sights. Don't buy some POS that was slapped together with leftover parts. When you are in no hurry to purchase a gun you can find one that appears to be unfired.