star firestar

Discussion in 'Gunsmithing Forum' started by upman43, Mar 1, 2009.

  1. upman43

    upman43 New Member

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    My dad recently bught a Star Firestar M43 9mm. He is having trouble with it jamming on about the 3rd shot of every mag. We are thinking maybe extractor and spring, any other suggesttions ? He has shot Rem. and Win. USA ammo, both jam.
     
  2. stalkingbear

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    You need to define "jamming" and break it down into fail-to-feed, fail-to-extract, fail-to-eject before we can help you. Until then we don't know what the problem is.
     

  3. crockett007

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    IMHO - Star = FAIL. Quality is bad. You could probably install factory new parts and come up with the same unreliable firearm. Think about it, how many raving threads have you seen praising Star products.? I could go on but you get the idea. Even the most gifted gunsmith cannot overcome inferior materials in the base gun. DX the FireJammer.
     
  4. 7.62 Man

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    My Star Firestar .40 S&W works great enough to be my CCW.
    In other words I will put my life on the reliability of this gun.
     
  5. ladyM

    ladyM New Member

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    7.62 , Do you really value your life that little ?
     
  6. big shrek

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    Star's can be really reliable or problematic...much like a Ruger Vaquero ;) The Spanish Illbari police carried Stars for decades...quite reliable.

    I carried a Star Model 30 (9mm) for MANY years as my backup duty weapon...in case my issue revolver didn't have enough rounds for the application at hand. Good thing I'm a rather large guy (Bull from Night Court-sized) and can hide mid-size pistols easily. It used to be a challenge to see how many weapons we could hide on our person without being obtrusive.

    The only time I ever had any issues with it was when I used the bucket reloads that they gave us to practice with at the range...when using good quality ammo, I had no issues at ALL.

    Biggest issue was keeping it in magazines...magazine springs seemed to only last for three-four years before they'd give up...but we're also talking about two thousand rounds a year practice on average.

    With a used Star, the main thing is to clean the living daylights out of it as soon as you get it home, make sure the feed ramp has no burrs, grease the rails with a good lithium grease, check/clean the ejector, and use good quality ammo...or high-quality reloads that You Yourself make. Other than that, problems are few & far between after you get it cycling properly.

    I DO NOT like Remington basic bulk ammo, but Remington PREMIUM tends to work a lot better.

    I don't think I've ever used Winchester 9mm...
     
  7. stalkingbear

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    Big shrek-what problems have you had with Ruger Vaqueros? IMO they're the most idiot proof single action (along with Blackhawks) revolver and the strongest in their class. I've worked on dozens of Ruger single action revolvers and all but 2 were elective upgrades-not repairs.
     
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  8. WILDCATT

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    star

    colt sold star 25 acp for yrs,till they could not import them.I have a star model D and this was to be the colt pony.the serial number on mine shows it to have been one of them.stars were good guns. many guns will fail I have seen colt 1911s that werent junk but they were not reliable till worked on.even gold cup 45s.:rolleyes:
     
  9. mit

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    I had one of the original firestar 9mm. I don't think there was 1 clip I put through that p.o.s. without at least 1 jam. I cured that problem by buying a Glock.
     
  10. Dzscubie

    Dzscubie New Member

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    Mit...... that is a magazine not a clip :mad:
     
  11. stalkingbear

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  12. masterPsmith

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    I have owned two Firestars for many years and still do. One in .40 and one in .45ACP. They have been 100% reliable, not one problem, ever. I have not had to repair many through the years either. Don't know where the bashing is coming from, but he does not even know the difference between a clip and a magazine. JMHO...................

    Jim.......................
     
  13. NGIB

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    I owned and shot a Star BM for many years and it was a very nifty and reliable gun. Difficulty and expense in finding mags and other spare parts finally convinced me to part with it. (While I had nothing break, knowing I couldn't easily find spare parts clinched it for me).

    BTW, this thread was nearly a year old when the newbie posted his complaint...
     
  14. dteed4094

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    magazine, clip

    Dif? not a novice, but you know what you're taught. Is this a Cane or Tango rule? It's been a clip to me before they were born. Kinda like bluegill and brim! No disrespect, Because I value their opinion but WTF, clue me in.
     
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  15. mit

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    Thank you very much. I agree, I was always told it was a clip ever since I first held a gun. Who is to say what is the right term. All I know Is that they were called clips long before anyone called them a mag. But what can you say about that other than some people are right even when they are wrong. I mean on an AK is it a 30 rnd bannana clip?
    Is it a 30 rnd bannana mag? What is the correct terminology? But you know just because masterpsmith has 396 more posts than me he must be right.
     
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  16. stalkingbear

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    The correct terminology is magazine. Lay off masterpsmith.
     
  17. dteed4094

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    I stand corrected. Can you tell me when "cilp" became improper.
     
  18. mit

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    Okay and who made you the see all know all professor of all things pertaining to guns? You ask any old war vet. what their terminology is on the subject (you know back in the day when you loaded your clip and read your magazine) What I am trying to say is maybe, possibly both terms are correct. Also what your saying is its alright for masterp to discredit me just because I use a different term, SCREW THAT! So I invite him to please explain to me the difference between a clip and a mag PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME ALL KNOWING ONE.
     
  19. Dzscubie

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    Ok, have posted this before and will do it again,

    A magazine is a metal or polymer device that holds rounds of ammunition that are loaded into it and then the ammunition and the magazine are physically inserted into a firearm. Upon firing the last round the magazine will then remain inside the weapon until removed by the shooter. Some weapons have a built in magazine that must be hand loaded with the ammunition and can not be removed.

    There are two types of clips. A clip is a metal device that holds rounds of ammunition. One type of clip is then inserted into a slot on the weapon and the rounds are pressed down, off the clip, and into a magazine built into the weapon. An example of this type of clip and weapon is the SKS.

    The second type of clip is physically inserted, with the ammunition, into the weapon and upon firing the last round the clip is physically ejected from the weapon. An example of this type of clip is one that is used with the M1 Garand.

    Many of the misconceptions on firearms terminology is a result of mainstream media and what they think sounds more sensational thus we have the AK 47 banana clip when in reality it is an AK 47 30 round magazine just like the M16 30 round magazine.
     
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  20. mit

    mit New Member

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    Thank you very much Dzscubie for the explanation on why I was wrong. I would like to apologize to stalkingbear, I meant no disrespect. It is just very frustrating when people tell you that you are wrong about something, and treat you like your stupid with absolutely no explanation of why you are wrong. I don't know about anyone else but I joined this forum to further my knowledge on the firearms that I posses, and possibly help out other members where I can. I have absolutely no patience for some jerk that I have never even met before trying to make me look stupid, like I didn't have a clue about what I was talking about! I did own a firestar 9mm for two years and it jammed often enough that I would not chance my life on it.
     
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