staining wooden stocks

Discussion in 'Engraving & Refinishing' started by sunsoutgunsout, Jul 12, 2013.

  1. sunsoutgunsout

    sunsoutgunsout New Member

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    Tryin a little project for the heck of it. Got an only cooey that i wanna duracoat the barrel (after sanding it and whatnot, I know the procedure for that already) but i wanna stain the rifle to more of a reddish colour. Is there a protective layer over the stock usually? I was gonna sand it down using a medium grit working my way up to really fine grit, then stain it. Is there any other ways to tackle this, and what should i use to protect the stain?
     
  2. Hawg

    Hawg Active Member

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    Don't sand it, strip it. If you sand it you're going to have poor wood to metal fit. You may need to lightly sand it after stripping but do it very lightly with a fine grit.
     

  3. KG7IL

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    I'll second Hawg's advise.

    Use a chemical stripper
    - such as
    *Harsh Stuff* Jasco Paint and Epoxy Stripper
    * Volatile * Formby's Furniture Restorer
    * Home Made * Acetone, Xylol, Toluene mix
    * Greenie* Soy based, safe to eat, but not so effective

    Use a fine steel wool or 'white 3m' scrub pad. Don't change the wood at all.

    Now the only thing that I need to know is what does this mean? "Got an only cooey"
     
  4. sunsoutgunsout

    sunsoutgunsout New Member

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    Oh haha, i meant old cooey. Model 75 to be exact, the ones before winchester bought em out
     
  5. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Unless you run a meth lab on the side, you may be short of acetone, xylene, toluene, etc- so go buy a can of Formby's Refinisher. be careful- flammable as hell, vapor not good for you. Use outdoors. After it is fully dry, stain.
     
  6. KG7IL

    KG7IL Well-Known Member

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    I mentioned the Formby's, which is acetone, xylene and toluene, and. having these products are no more prima fascia of criminal activity than having a firearm with bullets.

    I enjoy woodworking and refinishing, so these products are handy in my shop. as is denatured alcohol, mineral spirits and elbow grease.

    I am quite sure that I am not alone in the woodworking/refinishing hobby.
     
  7. Anna_Purna

    Anna_Purna New Member

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    This stuff removed the finish off my rifle pretty easily. 9 dollars at home depot


    And you can buy gallons of MEK, Acetone, etc at Sherwin Williams type stores.
     
  8. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    KG- foregoing was meant in s humorous vein- no offense was intended. Like yourself, I have a shop for wood and metal working- and yes, I have gallons of assorted solvents, ranging from MEK to alcohols to hydrocarbons to .... whatever. Think there is still a quart of 1-1-1 trichlor somewhere in the back of the locker.

    However, some of our folks do not have a shop, may need a pint of refinisher, and would never use up a gallon of toluene, one of xylene, one of acetone, etc.
     
  9. Intheshop

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    "IF" you are going to use a chemical stripper....and I'm not sayin yay or nay on its appropriateness or effectiveness.....

    Do yourself a favor and once the stripper is applied,wrap some plastic kitchen wrap around it.It may seem like an unnecessary step,but it vastly improves the "bite" on the chemical reaction.Especially since this should be done outdoors......you don't want any evaporative action.You want to keep the chemicals biting into the finish.

    Remington's RKW finish is right tuff.To the point that,when looking at pricing for stock work on these,you usually see an upcharge for their "stripping".

    C3,I thought it was funny.
     
  10. sunsoutgunsout

    sunsoutgunsout New Member

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    Haha thanks guys! I'll be sure to try it when i get time!
     
  11. sunsoutgunsout

    sunsoutgunsout New Member

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    So I am having troubles finding formbys refinisher, do they sell it in canada? Anyways, I found a wooden stain stripper (brand is sico) at the rona, havent purchased it yet. Would this be sufficiant?



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  12. sunsoutgunsout

    sunsoutgunsout New Member

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    It says its good for exterior finishes
     
  13. gunnut07

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    I sand all my stocks to remove the finish. Never had a problem yet. You don't sand stocks with 80 grit on a palm sander. You start with 120 grit with a foam block. You just need to take care on the edges and corners just like sanding and buffing a car. Never sand or buff on to an edge sand or buff off of it. I will work my stocks down to 400 grit then hit them with water and 600 grit for a final smooth as butter feel.

    Then I hand rub a coat of stain or two depending on how dark I want the stock. Then I use DEFT Spray Lacquer sanding sealer then semigloss or gloss spray Lacquer if it is not a hunting stock.
     
  14. musketshooter

    musketshooter New Member

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    Brown alcohol based leather dye will give you the slight reddish look.
     
  15. sunsoutgunsout

    sunsoutgunsout New Member

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    So would that sico stuff work?
     
  16. Anna_Purna

    Anna_Purna New Member

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    Sunsout, do you guys have home depot stores up there? I used this on my Rifle stripping and it worked great. Cost about 9 dollars
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  17. thatonespot

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    Stripper. *chuckles*

    Ahem, i uh, oh, i do believe im in the wrong thread, excuse me.
     
  18. sunsoutgunsout

    sunsoutgunsout New Member

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    Yes we do, rona and home hardware is pretty much all we got haha. Well anyways, awesome! Most of the suggestions (product wise) aren't really of use since I can't get the products here without ordering online! Thank you!
     
  19. Anna_Purna

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    So if you get some, just brush it on (I used an old tooth brush) and kept it wet. As INTHESHOP suggested, get some plastic wrap and wrap your stock up to keep the air from drying out the paste, that way it keeps working and you wont have to use as much.

    Then wipe off with a rag. Was very easy to do. Good luck :)
     
  20. sunsoutgunsout

    sunsoutgunsout New Member

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    Thanks! Ill be sure to post before and after pictures (when I get around to the project) haha