spot rust help

Discussion in 'Engraving & Refinishing' started by huntmaster, Jan 25, 2013.

  1. huntmaster

    huntmaster New Member

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    I've got a rifle that, when I got it, left a little to be desired. It looked like it had been carried alot, but the bluing was prety nice still. I refinished the wood, and now I've got a rifle I'm proud of.....with one exception.

    At the front of the reciever where you'd cary a rifle at there's a bunch of tiny rust spots. I've cleaned it off and oiled, but the spots keep coming back more visable again. Is there a way to fix this so it doesn't do this without a total new blue job?
     

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  2. dog2000tj

    dog2000tj New Member

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    only way I know of to keep rust from coming back is to not leave the raw metal exposed. Put some kind of finish on it ... blueing or duracoating :)
     

  3. hiwall

    hiwall Well-Known Member

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    You could stop oxygen from getting to those spots. Oil does that. Varnish, plastic coating, paint anything that stops the oxygen.
     
  4. jka333

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    Hunt....

    There are easy ways to do this with good success. Go to any sporting goods store and pick up one of the gun bluing kits. They generally come with a cleanser and bluing compound in two small bottles. Outers makes one that's widely aval.
    Get some 0000 steel wool. Clean the area with the cleaner/degreaser. Wipe. Then dip the wool into bluing and rub on spots. Keep plenty of bluing on area for about five mins. Preheat the area first with a hair dryer. Once rust is removed oil the area.
     
  5. AR10

    AR10 New Member

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    VERY GOOD FIRST POST!

    Welcome!
     
  6. huntmaster

    huntmaster New Member

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    jka, Thanks for the info! I just wanted to let you guys know I've got the material to try this, just havn't gotten to it yet. I'll post up the results when I do.
     
  7. jka333

    jka333 New Member

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    new rifle...rust spots

    Huntmaster....

    see my post below.
    jka
     
  8. jka333

    jka333 New Member

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    see my post below
     
  9. huntmaster

    huntmaster New Member

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    JKA, any more advice? It seems I missed your additional information.

    I had wondered how perma blue would work with the existing finish, so I pulled the feed tube cap first to blue the edges that always get worn away. The worn areas turned a nice black, while the bluing turned blue. On the end cap it's ok, but on my reciever, this isn't going to blend well. Any further advice?

    BTW, I have done some work on the screws on this rifle, and it really does make a difference to have those cleaned up and looking right.
     
    Last edited: Feb 7, 2013
  10. BillDeShivs

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    Nothing you can do, short of a complete professional refinish, will be satisfactory.
    Cold blues won't match or blend. Better to leave it alone keep it oiled.
     
  11. jka333

    jka333 New Member

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    i'd agree with Bill's advice. you could try another bluing kit in an inconspicuous area.
     
  12. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Is that rifle a Winchester? If so, trying to reblue is going to be a problem.

    Winchester found they were using a metal alloy that would NOT blue. They wound up IRON plating the receivers, then bluing them- and THAT worked. However, if the iron plating gets a hole (from rust, wear, etc) when you try to blue, it won't.
     
  13. huntmaster

    huntmaster New Member

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    Yes, it's a Win. 94...not a pre, but has machined lift (so later post?)

    I may try some ortho, but my guess is that they're all about the same, or will give the same results.

    That's interesting about the alloy. I've not heard that before. Any references?

    I may just try to do some pick work on it with a magnifier. If I can keep the bluing in the spotted area, I may be able to do enough dots to hide most of them. I don't know just yet.

    But like I said earlier, it's looking much better with just the "new" screws :D