Spanish M1916 mauser marked 7.62 - Nato vs 308 win

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  1. mookiie2005

    mookiie2005 New Member

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    I recently purchased a Spanish M1916 Mauser with a chamber marked as 7.62. I know these rifles were built n small ring mauser m1893 actions. I have seen several forums where people go back and fourth over the issue. I would like to hear from people who own and shoot M1916 mausers and what they shoot in them - commercial or hand loads. Thanks or any help
     
  2. OzarkRecluse

    OzarkRecluse New Member

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    I shoot surplus 7.62. I usually get it in 200 rd. battle packs.
     

  3. Snakedriver

    Snakedriver New Member

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    Surplus 7.62 NATO ammunition is closer to the chamber pressure of the original 7 X57 caliber of these old Mausers. .308 Win ammunition can exceed the safe pressure in some cases. If you can find the 7.62 NATO stuff, you'll be good to go. .308 Win. may be fine in some guns, but why push it?
     
  4. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    7.62 NATO is NOT .308 Winchester. If the rifle is marked 7.62, it would be prudent to stick with that.

    Rifles chambered in .308 CAN safely shoot 7.62 NATO, but reverse is not always true.
     
  5. 303tom

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    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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  8. 303tom

    303tom Well-Known Member

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    Yeh I have read them all, & still use either & or in all of my 7.62 & .308 rifles, same as with my .223 & 5.56 rifles........
     
  9. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    It is your face so shoot what ever you choose. I have a Spanish FR-8, built on a large ring Mauser action. I shoot 7.62 NATO spec ammo or slightly reduced .308 hand loads. Remember the action/receiver was used when it was rebarreled. The receiver had ? rounds through it before this process. The bolt was tested by who? A small hairline crack can easily lead to a high velocity shard of bolt/firing pin/cocking piece entering your skull via your eye socket so do what you think is best.

    I likewise have two 1916 short rifles in 7 X 57. I load them down a bit also. I am pretty fond of my eye sight and would like my brain to stay put with out any additions of magnetic material. I am also fond of my rifles and would prefer they remain servicable long after I am no longer so.
     
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  10. Hawg

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    I had one and I shot .308 out of it until my gunsmith told me that sooner or later the receiver would stretch. He said it wouldn't blow up or come apart but it would get increasingly difficult to operate the bolt until it finally locked up.
     
  11. Bigdog57

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    I shoot 7.62X51 (NOT necessarily 'NATO') in my FR8, and have shot some .308Win in it. No signs of lug setback. Gotta love the Kar98-based action.
    My M1916 is a different matter - being nearly a century old, I handload lighter for it, using 7.62X51 brass - to about the same level as .30-40 Krag. No sense stressing the old action.
    I once tried chambering handloaded 7.62X51 in my new-to-me Remington Model Seven (.308Win ) - it woun't chamber. Could be the 'once-fired' surplus brass was a tad long. I had not trimmed them, as they fit fine in my Mausers and CETME. Some commercial rifles have significantly tighter chambers. My .308Win handloads using the exact same dies (no change in adjustment) chamber well and are scary accurate in that rifle.
    My old Spanish M43 Airforce Model is dated 1956, and was bought by me in 1976 - it's had thousands of rounds of 8mm Mauser through it - never a sign of lug setback. Reading the forums and other sources, I can find NO confirmed cases of the M1916 blowing up due to commercial .308Win loads. Handloads are a different matter - some will exceed SAAMI specs! I feel the old rumours of "soft Spanish steel" slander these fine rifles. The little 'cottage industry' cheap Spanish pistols are a different matter!