Any other LEO's here that can tell me of any specific ammo restrictions for Off-duty/retired LEO's regarding ammo carried in handguns in NY? I know that New Jersey LE will arrest ANYONE caught carrying hollow points. I'm retiring to a small town north of Utica and I don't need to make new enemies with the local p.d. I love the Adirondacks but damn.......the NY firearm carry laws are insane!! 2 weeks ago I went into a Gander Mountain store in Utica just to take a peek at the new S&W "Governor". The friendly salesman told me that he couldn't even show me the gun unless I showed him my NY pistol permit. After showing him my Pennsylvania police ID, he decided that he could then show me the gun!! Whew......things here in PA are much more "gunshop friendly".