Soon to be new FFL

Discussion in 'NFA/Class 3 & FFL Discussion' started by AirCavBob, Aug 29, 2013.

  1. AirCavBob

    AirCavBob New Member

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    I’ve been reading the threads here going back to around when the world went crazy late last year and have gleamed a lot of useful information thus far, very useful and thank you. My intended situation is to open small in my current office which is zoned correctly and I have my landlord’s approval. I have my own small real estate brokerage and we deal primarily in foreclosed homes so we have very little walk-in customers as all our clients are out of state. I have one vacant room that is 11X10 and it will be the store per say. It is securable and the safe is in the storage room. I plan to fund the shop with around a 10K loan from the real estate business, the two will be separate, I have an LLC for the RE and just formed an LLC for the shop and have obtained an EIN, both documents I sent in with the application and the $200 check which has been cashed. Not concerned about the clearance as I have CCH and NFA stuff and I’ve been a good boy since my last Form 4. I plan to register with the popular online sites and auction sites to get my name out there for transfers. As for inventory, I plan to try and get aligned with the recommended distributors and then see what the offers are and go from there. I may also stock ammo or more than likely will. As for accessories, I’m going to do a wait and see there at first. Next July I plan to send in my SOT app and money and get started in retail NFA as well. The plan to wait is so I don’t spend 500 bucks for nothing since Form 3’s are taking so long.

    I do want to be able to take credit cards and that is one area I could use help on please. Recommendations there would be very helpful, lowest fees, non anti gun like Cube. And the ability to not only swipe but also take orders over the phone.

    As for tracking sales to I can pay the state for doing nothing for me except taking money from customers, I plan on a simple cash register, new or used, I figure I have time to shop the local want ads and Craig’s list and use stamped invoices to start with.

    Security wise we do have a number of windows in the front lobby and I’m wondering if having a gun shop inside will be a magnet to the dregs of society and if I need to consider having internal bars installed. What’s the thinking there please?

    In a nutshell the above and additional insurance will be my only startup costs unless someone sees that I’m missing something. I have been in contact with the NRA insurer and have that ready too.

    Oh, one other thing, I have snagged the domain for my new company and already have email in it and have registered with the ATF for notices.

    Any insight from those who have been there and were or are still doing is would be helpful. I also plan the register with the FFL forum once I do have my FFL.

    Thanks in advance,

    BAllen Sales LLC
     
  2. Sniper03

    Sniper03 Supporting Member Supporter

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    Bob,

    I certainly appreciate your devotion and thoughts to the new business venture. Being in the industry for years and still at the present. The only thought that comes to mind is, normally it is a slow start as you begin to build up the business regarding exposure to the potential customers. In time you will have repeat customers and referrals by word of mouth which is based on customer satisfaction and service. And as stated some items can be effectively sold on the internet. You need to do some research on the products that you will have readily available for sale and those that will be ordered for the customers. A word of caution: Reasonable delivery on items ordered for customers is essential. It will make it or break it. Obviously the ones that will turn the capital invested the quickest. Secondly if you are not making 30% on items you will go broke. Which brings me to the next consideration. To develop a rapport with quality vendors will also take time. And unfortunately for the good vendors for example, Yankee Hill, RCBS, Federal (ATK), Remington, Springfield, Sig and others you will find to get favor from them it takes a significant purchase of product to increase your profit margin and also to get reasonable (time) deliveries on product. In this industry the big dogs suck up a lot of product which delays deliveries to the smaller guys. I guess if this seems it is trying to discourage you it is not the intention. Only from experience to advise you to be successful it will take a significant investment, time and persistence. With the correct selection of products it can be very lucrative if operated effectively. Good luck on your new venture and if I can ever be of any assistance do not hesitate to contact me or some of the other fine folks here on the forum.

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  3. AirCavBob

    AirCavBob New Member

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    Thank you Sniper03. Good info there.
     
  4. DropZone889

    DropZone889 New Member

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    I became a member of FFL123.com in interest in getting my FFL and I get newsletters and emails about Approved credit card processors that deal with firearm sales and the give a break on the fees to the members, u may wanna check them out, I think it cost $20 to be a member I believe. There are coupon codes I hear out there as well to save on member fee.
     
  5. AR10

    AR10 New Member

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    The SOG catalog that comes in the mail every ten days makes good bird paper if you have a feathered friend.

    I was an FFL for a bunch of years, and I always dreaded the pair of suits that camped out at my business once a year or so, going over my books. I am sure you will enjoy that also.

    I would rather beat my toes flat with a ball peen hammer, than be a FFL dealer again.

    Something calming about buying a gun retail, filling out paperwork, once, that I never have to see again, or reconcile.
     
  6. AirCavBob

    AirCavBob New Member

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    Well, I had my interview Monday. It lasted two hours. He pretty much went over all the laws of an FFL and we skipped Class III and importer. Young guy, nice but very professional and down to business. He said it should take four to six weeks to receive my license. Learned a lot in that two hours.
     
  7. boddah4

    boddah4 New Member

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    In regards to the payment via credit card... I listened to Gun Guys Radio podcast this week and they had a guest that talked about his company that does this for firearm companies. I cannot remember the name of it right now though.
     
  8. boddah4

    boddah4 New Member

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    I just look and it is MacMillan Merchant Solutions. The guest said they have the lowest rates available.

    By the way I am in no way affiliated with them, just passing along information
     
  9. 1911love

    1911love New Member

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    Same people who make the stocks IIRC. They recently sold their firearms business, but are keeping their stock business and merchant services.
     
  10. Missouribound

    Missouribound Active Member

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    When I filed for a business license in Missouri, I was flooded by mail regarding credit card acceptance, insurance, mailing services...etc. Do you have your business registered new as an FFL or as an existing business? I'm surprised you haven't been inundated with the same mailings and email.
     
  11. AirCavBob

    AirCavBob New Member

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    Thank you for the CC recommendations. I’ll look into MacMillan early next year. My state does not require a business license for what I’m going to be doing. I did receive one mailing for CC processing within days of filling my LLC though but that’s been it for now. Currently my FFL app in a holding pattern due to the Gub Mint shutdown, licensing is closed, just one dude answering the phone saying the same thing others are getting when they call for NFA Form status. Nothing happening. Applied for attendance to SHOT and sent in a letter of explanation about the situation. We’ll see if they approve me. Would really hate to wait a full year to attend SHOT.
     
  12. ktmboyz

    ktmboyz New Member

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    I use bank card USA. They guarantee the lowest rates in the industry or they match them. Free machine ect. Contact Ryan zone, he is my salesman and he'll take great care of you.