I'm down at the range over this past weekend shooting trap with 4-H. this kid about 4' 8" picks up a 12 gauge pump action. and it gets Even Better. His turn is up, he calls for the bird, and i watch his stance. He isn't leaning forward oh no. he's leaning Backwards just so he can hold the gun. He fires and falls on his ass. Made my day. oh and 3 little black birds fly by my clay and i shot them on accident. got kicked out for the day Attached picture of trap house 1. nice place eh?